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    06-24-2014, 01:38 AM
  #1
Weanling
Pawing In The Trailer

Angel is a nightmare to trailer. She gets in fine and everything, but about 20-30 minutes into the trailering she starts pawing. We've tried stuff like hobbling her, breaking enough so she has to have all 4 to balance, not my favorite method, but a last resort, taking center divider out so a one horse slant, ect. Nothing has worked. Sometimes she goes as far as bucking, but only on left turns. She is denting the metal inwards and has broken a few floor boards. Luckily never put her hood through, but still not ok. Also yes we do check the floors every time before we haul.

I was able to get a hold of one of her old owners a couple years ago and they said they never have had an issue with her, but they always trailered in a slant, we have a straight load. That was like 13 ish years ago though so something may have happened between the time that owner sold her and when I bought her. I have no way to know.

There have been a few times while we hauled her that she had a few accidents. One time we were heading to a riding lesson and she started bucking, on a left turn, she kicked the center bar out of place. At the time we only had one butt bar attached, no one told us other wise, and it caught it at a weird angle. She got her legs caught and cut them up pretty bad. She was ok, no tendon damage, and it's all healed with just some scars. Now we put both butt bars up no matter what.

Another time she started bucking, again on a left turn, and we had her hobbled. She slipped and fell. She knew enough to tuck her legs in so she wouldn't get stepped on by Jinxx. Luckily my dad forgot to tie her in so she didn't get hung up. We immediately pulled over got her up and out. Just a scratch on her cheek. From there on no more hobbles and tying when the divider is in.

A little bit about the trailer and how we trailer. The trailer is a 2 horse straight load. Has a sturdy frame and everything. When we trailer she has access to hay and some feed. We usually travel with another horse who does well traveling, but makes no difference to her. She is always on the left side since she can not handle the right.

We have no access to any other trailers to try her in to see if she does any better. I do have a theory that she is claustrophobic because at a horse show we rented a box stall. First time ever having her in a box stall, while we owned her. She would not calm down. Very ancy and pacing a lot. Couldn't get out of the stall fast enough, but once in the isle she was fine.

I'm not really thrilled about having a straight load, but that is what we have right now. I'm in the process of saving for a 3 horse slant. I currently have about $1700 so I'm still ways away. I want the 3 horse slant since I have 2 horses and the third stall gives me an extra space, but I can also remove the arms and create a stock type trailer.

Does anyone have any ideas of what I can do? She is 23 so I don't know if there is anything we can do at this point? Any information will be helpful. Also let me know if I forgot to add anything.

Here is a picture of where she is kicking in the trailer:
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    06-24-2014, 02:44 AM
  #2
Yearling
Have you tried slowing down?
     
    06-24-2014, 02:58 AM
  #3
Weanling
She does it no matter what speed we are going. We could be at a complete stand still or on the highway. We don't drive really fast and we are careful on the turns to not go too fast and slow down for bumps.
     
    06-24-2014, 04:40 AM
  #4
Super Moderator
I'm amazed she gets into the trailer , over and over again,when she has so much anxiety about it.

How long are the typical trips? Have you tried unloading her every 20 minutes, getting her to move and maybe even work and then loading her back up? So that she knows that going into the trailer is not a long affair, and so that being out of the trailer means working, and being in it means food and rest.
     
    06-24-2014, 04:55 AM
  #5
Super Moderator
My mare paws in the trailer too, she doesn't get upset and loads like a total star but she gets bored and wants out or to be home again and paws the whole journey. I'm putting down an extra layer of matting to protect the floor when I travel her, I would never hobble as they need to be able to balance.
     
    06-24-2014, 05:29 AM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
I'm amazed she gets into the trailer , over and over again,when she has so much anxiety about it.

How long are the typical trips? Have you tried unloading her every 20 minutes, getting her to move and maybe even work and then loading her back up? So that she knows that going into the trailer is not a long affair, and so that being out of the trailer means working, and being in it means food and rest.
When we first got her she wouldn't go in. When we did get her in she tried to jump into the feeder and made a big fuss out of everything. Over time we worked with her on it and she, for the most part is fine with it. Now you just walk her up to it and she loads herself. Just the pawing issue is left. Although when going down the road and she really gets into the pawing she was cause the trailer to start swaying a bit and sometimes you can feel it in the truck. Luckily our truck,a big ford f250, handles it well and it doesn't really pull us around. Also if you're just sitting for like 10-15 minutes she will start rocking back and forth pushing into the front part.

Our topical trip is anywhere between 40 minutes - an hour and a half. We really don't have any option to take her out and work her. We are usually either hauling to my trainers house or one of the show grounds. It's gotten to the point that on our way back from a show we sedate her, since they're usually an hour and a half away. We've talked to our vet about this and he has given us the sedative.

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Originally Posted by Clava    
My mare paws in the trailer too, she doesn't get upset and loads like a total star but she gets bored and wants out or to be home again and paws the whole journey. I'm putting down an extra layer of matting to protect the floor when I travel her, I would never hobble as they need to be able to balance.
She goes through the mats like no tomorrow. They're expensive to keep replacing. I know it's better to spend money on mats than she go through the floor, but it's still difficult. Although I think she was doing the most damage when she had shoes on. Now she is barefoot.
     
    06-24-2014, 07:24 AM
  #7
Super Moderator
Hoof boots might help?
     
    06-24-2014, 03:44 PM
  #8
Showing
Have you tried trailering her loose so she can travel backwards? That's how mine like to travel.
     
    06-24-2014, 04:10 PM
  #9
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clava    
hoof boots might help?
Honestly I don't think they will change anything. She will just damage the boots and again I don't have the money to be replacing them.

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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
Have you tried trailering her loose so she can travel backwards? That's how mine like to travel.
How do I have her travel loose in a two horse straight load? Especially when I have 2 horses in there? I've never tried it, so she might do better that way. I'm worried that if she travels backwards that she might try to jump out the back though.

Would something like this possible help her pawing?:
Paw-B-Gone Ankle Bands
     
    06-24-2014, 10:04 PM
  #10
Started
Okay so weird question but have you had her examined by a vet? Specifically looking for neurologic issues. I ask because I heard of a horse (and saw video) of a horse that had a balance issue. This horse would basically fall over every time the person made a right turn. It was like he was unaware of his right side in a trailer. The horse rode fine but every left right turn resulted in the horse collapsing against the side of the trailer. I would see if you could video the trailer ride to see what is happening if you have not done so already. I would also have a vet examination because it might rule something out.
     

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