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post #1 of 114 Old 04-25-2011, 02:54 PM Thread Starter
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Paying for services

In our daily lives all of us are faced with the choices and the decisions of how to provide for our needs.

If we don't know how to fix our lawn mower or washing machine we may consult the Internet for advice or we may just call a qualified person to repair the problem.

If we need a hair cut or dental cleaning we seek out a trained person that has experience performing the task and we try them out.

If we feel that we want to learn a skill we enroll in a local evening college or attend a train seminar to get qualified coaching in the area of our interest.

Why is it then that so many people feel totally qualified to embark on the journey of training a horse with very little guidance and feel that it just should be no problem?

Minimum facilities,no mentor or tack and so many are ready to take on the job of training a young colt or filly like it is our birth right to do so.

Armed with a couple of scratched videos,a dog eared old training book,and a neighbor that once owned a horse when they were 11 years old, young and old alike feel that they have all the tools necessary to complete the job of raising a horse.

We hear the stories here and on many other forums that talk about horses after the injuries have occurred in many cases.

Somehow it is assumed that this vital knowledge to be successful is somehow just part of the persons genetic makeup and all people should be able to do this as easy as drinking water.

The auction yards are filled with failed attempts and as usual the horse is the ultimate loser in the equation.

If I gave you a Lear Jet as a present and built you a runway in your back yard to go with it would you really just go out one day and try to take it for a spin?

Are people just cheap to a fault or do they really feel that somehow they were born with some kind of organic knowledge that equips them to be an effective horse trainer.

I really don't understand....Please explain this to me.

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post #2 of 114 Old 04-25-2011, 03:02 PM
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Haven't we used and abused this topic every time someone has an issue, they are told to get a trainer. And the saga starts.

I'd like to see people have to pass a test to be a parent - but it isn't going to happen.

Let it go.
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post #3 of 114 Old 04-25-2011, 03:06 PM
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In our daily lives all of us are faced with the choices and the decisions of how to provide for our needs.

If we don't know how to fix our lawn mower or washing machine we may consult the Internet for advice or we may just call a qualified person to repair the problem.

If we need a hair cut or dental cleaning we seek out a trained person that has experience performing the task and we try them out.

If we feel that we want to learn a skill we enroll in a local evening college or attend a train seminar to get qualified coaching in the area of our interest.

Why is it then that so many people feel totally qualified to embark on the journey of training a horse with very little guidance and feel that it just should be no problem?

Minimum facilities,no mentor or tack and so many are ready to take on the job of training a young colt or filly like it is our birth right to do so.

Armed with a couple of scratched videos,a dog eared old training book,and a neighbor that once owned a horse when they were 11 years old, young and old alike feel that they have all the tools necessary to complete the job of raising a horse.

We hear the stories here and on many other forums that talk about horses after the injuries have occurred in many cases.

Somehow it is assumed that this vital knowledge to be successful is somehow just part of the persons genetic makeup and all people should be able to do this as easy as drinking water.

The auction yards are filled with failed attempts and as usual the horse is the ultimate loser in the equation.

If I gave you a Lear Jet as a present and built you a runway in your back yard to go with it would you really just go out one day and try to take it for a spin?

Are people just cheap to a fault or do they really feel that somehow they were born with some kind of organic knowledge that equips them to be an effective horse trainer.

I really don't understand....Please explain this to me.
I am 14, and am training my second horse. . . I don't have a proff. Trainer. . .
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post #4 of 114 Old 04-25-2011, 03:09 PM
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It's the young, the over confident, the impatient and the un-educated that think they are able to train a 1000 lb + animal with no help or previous knowledge. That's my theory.

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post #5 of 114 Old 04-25-2011, 03:14 PM
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It's the young, the over confident, the impatient and the un-educated that think they are able to train a 1000 lb + animal with no help or previous knowledge. That's my theory.
I have trained a gelding before and had no problems. So I think it is really a matter of how knowledged(sp?) they are .
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If this line of thinking were correct, we would still be in loincloths. There is nothin wrong with attempting to do it yourself... There is a good chance you will be successful, for in fact I am sure the first horseman was a complete novice ;)
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If this line of thinking were correct, we would still be in loincloths. There is nothin wrong with attempting to do it yourself... There is a good chance you will be successful, for in fact I am sure the first horseman was a complete novice ;)
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Haha , oh yes ;) They also probably got bucked off a fair amount too !
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I have trained a gelding before and had no problems. So I think it is really a matter of how knowledged(sp?) they are .
good to know? I'm glad you are able to train horses; but a good amount of people don't have that knowledge before they take on a horse.

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post #9 of 114 Old 04-25-2011, 03:51 PM
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good to know? I'm glad you are able to train horses; but a good amount of people don't have that knowledge before they take on a horse.
I have to agree. A lot of good horses go to slaughter because their owners say their "useless" just because the owner doesn't know.
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First there are people that probably can't afford to hire someone. Secondly, just because you hire someone doesn't guarantee anything (unfortunately). There are way too many people that say they are professional trainers when they haven't got the skills or temperament to teach effectively. The auction yards are full of horses that go to people like that.

I think that professionals should come up with a better way to deliver service so that it is affordable and the skills are transferable. But that is not what is out there. Yes there are a few good people but let's face it, it is really hard to make a good income training horses - most people cannot do it. So what are we left with people that have facilities but not necessarily the skills. So my question is what should all the qualified professionals do to raise their profession up and help the average person make a good decision. Do you know how many times I have helped people who now have serious problems because of a professional they hired - plenty of times - too many to count.
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