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    11-12-2012, 10:21 PM
Originally Posted by dressagegirl145    
Thanks everyone! I think he is rearing because he just has issues with listening.
That's obvious, but WHY still isn't. Again, rule out/treat physical issues first & foremost. Also how big are you, considering he's only a shettie? Generally speaking, when a horse rears when riding, I find it tends to be rider error - IOW, he's having 'issues listening' because you're not 'speaking' clearly or effectively to him.

he back fine with the lead but that is pushing on his chest.
IME it is best to teach them to *yield*(respond softly with understanding) to *rein* pressure on the ground before you teach them to do this while mounted. It's not automatic for them to yield to pressure - on the contrary it's natural for them to resist pressure they don't understand.

He likes to gallop so he always wants to go faster than I want him to so I think that is why he almost tramples me every time I lead him.
So he's probably(still not a given with so little info IMO) not doing it out of fear, but that he just wants to do what he wants to do & doesn't feel any need or desire to 'listen' to you? He's pushing you around trying to take the lead. While I would treat that 'symptom' rather strongly & be utterly consistent(don't allow him into your space occasionally but not others for eg), I'd mostly be focussing on the underlying problem that's caused/allowed this sort of behaviour - learning how to become a worthy leader for him, so he *wants* to 'listen' & not feel the need to try to take the role himself.

He is listening better, but I was using a stud chain for a while and now he is listening a lot better!
Each to his own. I just prefer to avoid 'heavy handedness' and tools that force submission where possible.

I like to give him treats to let him know that he is being good because that is the only way he really knows.
I too personally find food treats in training very helpful, but that is not at all correct. Food isn't the only positive reinforcer(reward) and removal of pressure(negative reinforcement) is also an effective way of teaching them what's 'right'. Put basically they learn to do what works for them(has a desirable effect) and they (eventually)quit what doesn't work for them(just doesn't achieve anything, or has only undesirable effects)

As Punks has said, treats(or whatever reinforcer you use) need to happen *at the time of* the behaviour you want to reinforce and NEVER when he's doing something undesireable. Even if he's also doing something 'good'. Whether talking reinforcement or punishment & whatever kind, it needs to happen *at worst*(it's not as clear to the animal) within a second or 2 of the behaviour or not at all. What you reinforce is what you will get more of, so it sounds like, assuming he's not brand new to you & came with the bad habit, you've been inadvertently training him to 'mug' you for treats.

Join up is a trust thing. Everything has gotten a lot better now that we have done that.
I understand very well what 'Join Up' is/does & without a big explanation, I will just say yes & no, but not generally. *Assuming* it's done appropriately & well, yes, it can help a horse gain trust in your bodylanguage, but not for life generally, including dogs & squirty bottles for eg. Unless the horse sees you as a worthy leader(he feels safe & secure with you), it will be difficult for you to teach him to feel safe in the presence of 'dangerous' stuff with you.

I am leaning rather heavily towards it not being fear issues though, but a 'dominance' one, given you've done 'join up' & allow the horse to follow you(herd you perhaps, in his eyes), he pushes you around & you've felt the need to resort to a chain across his nose. Again, I'd advise getting yourself some lessons with him.
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    11-12-2012, 10:24 PM
Originally Posted by PunksTank    
Loosie are you my alter-ego? Everything I thought of saying you've already said xD
No, just that you're obviously a very smart person if that's the case!
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    11-12-2012, 11:20 PM
Originally Posted by loosie    
No, just that you're obviously a very smart person if that's the case!
Lol thanks ^^ You've taught me alot, but I think I've 'liked' just about all your posts xD

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