pelham vs double bridle

I was wondering what is the difference between a pelham bit and the bits used for a doulble bridle to me they look the same except that parts are separated??

And what is the use for both these???

Yes, double bridels, or bradoons, are 2 seperate mouth pieces. These are mostly used in dressage to give more refined cues. People wll use pelhams instead sometimes, because double bridels will 'fill up' a small horse mouth very easily.

Pelhams are made of 1 piece. It has 2 rings which allows you to use a snaffle rein or curb rein for more control or more advanced moves.
^^ You can find these most anywhere. They are good for many things.

Do they help you make your horse give to the reins as in go on the bit and go in an outline??

Sure can.

But if you get some twine and tie it to the bit rings and then to the sadde keepers real tight it will "put a horse in frame" also.

Riding should never be about "putting a horse in frame" and if that is the only goal you have then you have lost the whole purpose of riding.8)

Wel then what other positive uses can these bits have???

Because I have seen them be used very harsely

My horse goes in both a pelham and a double.

The double is when I ride and it is to give the lightest possible aids when I am riding upper level movements. I will also use a simple snaffle as well so they are interchangeable..

I have the pelham for my young jumper rider to use. She has good hands but when my stallion is out in shows with many young riders the show committees seems to feel safer, even though he is just fine in a snaffle.

So in this case it is mostly to keep everyone happy.