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    11-08-2011, 11:21 AM
  #21
Yearling
My horse is pretty hot to begin with. So, this last weekend we have had a bit of rain. He's been relegated to his stall for about 72 hours. I would lunge him a bit to get the spice out and then hack him around under saddle. I have chosen to use the loose ring gag for days that I know he's going to give me hell. It works for me. :)
     
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    11-08-2011, 12:17 PM
  #22
Trained
72 hours?
     
    11-08-2011, 12:30 PM
  #23
Foal
I was thinking the same thing..
     
    11-08-2011, 01:14 PM
  #24
Trained
If you're thinking about using any martingale use it FIRST when lunging. She's already edgy, and I think a standing or running martingale might make her explode, so better to be on the ground and watching, than to be aboard her. I think your mare has a gap in her education. Being a mare she may have been bred THEN broken. A year off perhaps reminds her of her "Life of Riley", and I think she'd rather not work. Or, she may have been rushed when broken. Horses have an awesome memory for bad experiences.
I have both martingales. I used a standing martingale on my babysitter QH ("Ro Go Bar", 1982-2009, RIP) bc he would throw his head when at a halt at Reenactments (often during the battles). With the martingale, the head throwing ceased. I have used a running martingale when I wanted to keep one of my horses under better control with a snaffle, and I would keep it on IF my horse didn't get fussy with it.
Back off of the schooling you are doing with her. Take her back to the basics, and praise her for everything simple that she does correctly.
I was taken back recently while watching "Dressage Symposium"
RFD-TV :: U.S. Dressage Symposium
Michael Poulin commented that we don't give our horses enough praise and asked the audience to consider the punishments during a schooling session and whether they also praised their horse. Often we just expect our horses to perform after they've mastered a skill like an automan. They really do want to please us. Horses are not children. They won't get arrogant and turn into little monsters just bc you vociforously tell your mare she did a good job. I've only owned 6 mares (vs ~ 25 geldings), so when I bought my great mare 3 years ago, I decided to make her feel special. Now she ALWAYS comes up to me in the pasture, and I let her do things that her 5yo herd mates don't get to do since I can't trust them like I can trust HER. I tell her what we're doing when we work, and she says, "Okay, 'Duck!') (Duck is my family's nickname for me, lol.) She'll blow, "hello" when she's near me at the fence or gate. I think if you can go back and get your mare to trust you, you'll be able to work through this. Sorry for the treatise!! =b
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    11-08-2011, 01:43 PM
  #25
Foal
Well today, I just got done riding and I used a standing martingale and at the canter I keep circleing her until she started to soften up, the went back on the rail and everytime she would speed up I just circled until the point where we could canter a lap at the same pace. And she did really good
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    11-08-2011, 04:02 PM
  #26
Yearling
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
72 hours?
yep. Sadly, at my barn they lock everything up. So other than hand walking, there's no where for the horses to go when it rains.
     
    11-08-2011, 11:29 PM
  #27
Foal
No wonder he's hot if he has to be in a stall for that long. No offense im sure your options are limited.
I had a horse that was like that but when I switched him to field board he was do much happier and calmer.
     
    11-09-2011, 01:01 AM
  #28
Foal
Has anyone thought to check the saddle? Is it the same one she was in before the injury? If it is, it's likely her back would have changed and if it wasn't a good fit to begin with it might be bothering her even more. Often horses develop head tossing when they are slowing down because there is pinching or 'crashing' down of the pommel onto the withers and/or shoulders. May be something to try and look into to at least rule that problem out.

Does she do this on the lungeline w/o the saddle? While bareback? If not that is likely your problem.

I agree with some of the other posters, pain is the most likely answer.
     

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