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Plant that pivot foot, darn it!! ...with video!

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#1 ·
So today was day two of us working on pivoting for our upcoming show memorial day weekend. Skippy (my horse) has picked up the concept rather quickly. She is/was a reiner, so moving her shoulders around is nothing new. There was definietly improvement from last session, I kept having to "bump" her shoulder with my tumb to get her to turn. Today she only needed a small nudge to get going then she kept it pretty much the whole way around.

I think we're on the right track but I just can't get her to plant that RH leg.

Enjoy the video... excuse the crop hanging out of my pocket like it's a tail. I need tighter jeans to pull off that look! :oops:

 
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Hey your video is saying its private, go change your settings on YT;)
 
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I can't watch it on bandwidth but I would suggest doing what I do under saddle as well. Sidepass her a step or two, try turning, sidepass, turn, sidepass, turn. Puts the hip back underneath of her and will at the same time keep her forward motion. Should help. That's just my guess since most haunch turn problems tend to come from blowing the hip out. Hoping my guess is right. LOL
 
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I think you want her to be rocked back a tiny bit more onto her hind feet, so stand a bit more in front of her shoulder to stop her having ANY forward movement at all. rock her back infintisimally onto her hind before you even ask her for the sideways step over. this will prepare her better.
 
#11 ·
Thanks everyone! When I spin her I usually have a lift her up a bit so that makes sense! When I was trying to rock her back a bit she kept backing up, I think I'll have to just be a bit firmer with asking her to move over if she tries it again.

I'd rather teach her properly the first time then half-@$$ it and have to undo it.
 
#12 ·
Are you conveying this turn around into the saddle? I ask this because it could work two ways for you. If your using this for turn around a under saddle, then I wouldn't have her suck back too much, for some horses, and I say 'some', sucking back into the spin works, but for others it create more issues. But a turn around is supposed to be a forward movement.

Have you thought about circling her tight around you on the lead, ie. jogging her and bringing her down into the turn, this would require you to pull her in tighter to you and keep the momentum going and you would be moving a lot faster around beside her shoulder and you would be on the inside of the turn instead of the outside.....it's worth a try, you might be suprised........OR when that hip moves push her out into a tight jog around you going in the direction you were asking her to turn and make her move that hip A LOT then bring her back down into the turn around....she will want to keep that hip still after you've pushed her out and made her work it each time she swings it out in the turn around.....haha a bit of reining psychology there!!
 
#14 ·
Oh no, she already turns under saddle. I lift her up every once in a while when she turns into a lazy bum and starts putting weight onto her forehand. Then her bum spins out of control, which is whats happening here. Not enough weight on the hiney!

Maybe I will try jogging besides her, on the outside... where I'll have to do a lot of jogging... :shock:... But that works under saddle, maybe I'll try to do it from the ground.

I've got a month and a week to get it down so whatever work. :wink:
 
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If she backs up, then there is too much backward pressure.

practice applying just enough pressure for her literally rock her body backward, but NOT lift a single foot.

Once you get that, you rock her back, then start with the sideways pressure. If she has more weight on her front leg that is nearest you, she will be better able to pick up the off front leg and move it first. Remember that whichever leg you want to move, you need to have the hrose weighting the OTHER leg.
 
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