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    04-13-2013, 04:45 PM
  #11
Green Broke
Thanks everyone! When I spin her I usually have a lift her up a bit so that makes sense! When I was trying to rock her back a bit she kept backing up, I think I'll have to just be a bit firmer with asking her to move over if she tries it again.

I'd rather teach her properly the first time then half-@$$ it and have to undo it.
     
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    04-13-2013, 04:55 PM
  #12
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Are you conveying this turn around into the saddle? I ask this because it could work two ways for you. If your using this for turn around a under saddle, then I wouldn't have her suck back too much, for some horses, and I say 'some', sucking back into the spin works, but for others it create more issues. But a turn around is supposed to be a forward movement.

Have you thought about circling her tight around you on the lead, ie. Jogging her and bringing her down into the turn, this would require you to pull her in tighter to you and keep the momentum going and you would be moving a lot faster around beside her shoulder and you would be on the inside of the turn instead of the outside.....it's worth a try, you might be suprised........OR when that hip moves push her out into a tight jog around you going in the direction you were asking her to turn and make her move that hip A LOT then bring her back down into the turn around....she will want to keep that hip still after you've pushed her out and made her work it each time she swings it out in the turn around.....haha a bit of reining psychology there!!
     
    04-13-2013, 05:28 PM
  #13
Green Broke
Oh yeah, one more thing, will have have to pivot left also in my dinky local show?
     
    04-13-2013, 05:34 PM
  #14
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Muppetgirl    
Are you conveying this turn around into the saddle? I ask this because it could work two ways for you. If your using this for turn around a under saddle, then I wouldn't have her suck back too much, for some horses, and I say 'some', sucking back into the spin works, but for others it create more issues. But a turn around is supposed to be a forward movement.

Have you thought about circling her tight around you on the lead, ie. Jogging her and bringing her down into the turn, this would require you to pull her in tighter to you and keep the momentum going and you would be moving a lot faster around beside her shoulder and you would be on the inside of the turn instead of the outside.....it's worth a try, you might be suprised........OR when that hip moves push her out into a tight jog around you going in the direction you were asking her to turn and make her move that hip A LOT then bring her back down into the turn around....she will want to keep that hip still after you've pushed her out and made her work it each time she swings it out in the turn around.....haha a bit of reining psychology there!!
Oh no, she already turns under saddle. I lift her up every once in a while when she turns into a lazy bum and starts putting weight onto her forehand. Then her bum spins out of control, which is whats happening here. Not enough weight on the hiney!

Maybe I will try jogging besides her, on the outside... where I'll have to do a lot of jogging... ... But that works under saddle, maybe I'll try to do it from the ground.

I've got a month and a week to get it down so whatever work.
     
    04-13-2013, 06:54 PM
  #15
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If she backs up, then there is too much backward pressure.

Practice applying just enough pressure for her literally rock her body backward, but NOT lift a single foot.

Once you get that, you rock her back, then start with the sideways pressure. If she has more weight on her front leg that is nearest you, she will be better able to pick up the off front leg and move it first. Remember that whichever leg you want to move, you need to have the hrose weighting the OTHER leg.
     

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