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post #1 of 8 Old 01-23-2010, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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Planting feet for a rotation

Hi everyone! I am looking for suggestions on how to train my mare to keep her back feet planted for a rotation. We are starting AQHA shows in May and I need to start getting Bella used to a rotation. Right now she really bends her neck to the right and her back feet are all over the place! Any ideas?
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post #2 of 8 Old 01-23-2010, 09:01 PM
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I would like to see everyones responses. I am also working on this with a horse. I need to work on some other stuff before I really hit this one hard though.

However, I have a pretty good idea. I got him so he will spin around once nicely. Thanks for posting this! I don't have to do it now! LOL.

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post #3 of 8 Old 01-23-2010, 09:26 PM
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First, she can only keep on foot planted when she turns. One common mistake is to want your horse to step backward and turn. A pivot is all about forward motion. Walk her forward in a circle and bring the circle tighter and tighter untill the hind quarters are walking a smaller circle than the frontquarters. As the circle get smaller pretty soon the front end will be walking around the hindquarters and they won't be moving much at all. Two things are important to remember, you need your horse moving well off your leg and you need to keep your horse stepping forward. If you go to Larry Trocha's website he has videos and explains the mechanics of a turnaround very well. It's also important to be able to move the hind end really well off your leg.

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First, she can only keep on foot planted when she turns. One common mistake is to want your horse to step backward and turn. A pivot is all about forward motion. Walk her forward in a circle and bring the circle tighter and tighter untill the hind quarters are walking a smaller circle than the frontquarters. As the circle get smaller pretty soon the front end will be walking around the hindquarters and they won't be moving much at all. Two things are important to remember, you need your horse moving well off your leg and you need to keep your horse stepping forward. If you go to Larry Trocha's website he has videos and explains the mechanics of a turnaround very well. It's also important to be able to move the hind end really well off your leg.
I apologize, I must have worded wrong. I meant for a showmanship/halter class. That's how you teach a pivot for reining, or is it the same for an in hand class?
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post #5 of 8 Old 01-25-2010, 12:45 PM
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The mechanics are the same. You just need to keep your horse moving forward and get the front end moving away from you easily.

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I don't know I never though of walking into it. My stapdd alwaysss does that to get his horses spinning. I tried it on the one inm trying to train and he did it! He needs some work on it but its going great!

I would think its the same basic concept undersaddle as in hand. walk her into it. Good Luck! :)

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I have a friend at Findlay right now in their western program and how they teach horses to pivot is by getting them on their hind end, planting thier back right foot and stepping forward with the left.

My mare had a hard time learning how to pivot and what I found worked for me was backing a couple of steps ( so they are on their hindend or you can push them on their hindend) and then asking her to move away. If she bent her sould I could give her a tap with the crop so she got it moving. If your against crops poking sometimes work. Next after she has crossed over a couple of times and need to move her left hind forward we stop lift their head up and ask them to step forward. When they do this we continue with the pivot.

Im sure you know the drill ask for a few steps and then incease after they have a couple of steps. blah blah blah.

My mare learned this way in a week or so. She is still not perfect but acceptable and with some more work will be very good.

I hope this helps and happy training.
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Sometimes it helps to lock the hind end down if you hurry the shoulders up.

Personally, if the horse will not pivot in hand, the horse is locked up in the shoulders and I would teach them to place the far front foot at 5 and 7 o'clock (depending on direction) to allow the near front leg to get across at about 9 and 3 o'clock. (draw a clock around each foot with 12 being straight ahead) Ask for one step then lead the horse out, then when solid ask for two and so on. Then speed up the steps to help lock the hindend down.

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