"Playing the Hero" -- when to 'stick with it' & when to realize it's time to move on. - Page 12
   

       The Horse Forum > Training Horses > Horse Training

"Playing the Hero" -- when to 'stick with it' & when to realize it's time to move on.

This is a discussion on "Playing the Hero" -- when to 'stick with it' & when to realize it's time to move on. within the Horse Training forums, part of the Training Horses category

    Like Tree140Likes

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        08-12-2011, 07:46 PM
      #111
    Foal
    The original post makes me feel a LOT better about selling my horse because I was WAY overmatched.

    Taking some lessons and getting some more confidence and going to try to get something more my level. :)

    Makes me feel better though! :) Thanks.
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        08-22-2011, 01:15 AM
      #112
    Weanling
    This thread reminded me of an accedent that recently happened at a local pleasure show, the horse was spooked by a cart and bucked across the arena, then the horse reared up and flipped over on the rider, the the horse tried to get up and fell on her again, she suffered a double broken pelvis, broken collar bone, and a bunch of other injuries, they addressed that at my 4-H workout last week if you get into a situation that is out of control and you can't stop it, get off, don't try to ride it out and be a hero, this girl had lots of time to bail but she tried to ride it out, No I am not blaming her for what happen, stuff happens and there are times when we can't help it, but if you can GET OFF if you can't control or stop it.
         
        08-28-2011, 04:37 AM
      #113
    Foal
    Very good post:) I agree with getting a good trainer, I owe so much to mine for all she has done with me and my horse. When I was younger and fearless I used to have no problem getting on and just going sometimes as fast as we could, I look back now and wonder how the heck I ever did that, but then again I did a lot of stupid things when I was young and thank god for the properly trained horses we rode then. I have never had a fear of horses until I bought one and started working with him every day, first off my horse has no buck, no bite, doesn't rear or kick and I consider myself very lucky to have purchased a decent first horse, not!!! I truly believe luck has nothing to do with it, I believe that he was properly broke by a good trainer and that his calmness has made him a not bad horse for even a beginner like me but I know without my trainer ( and I don't like to use the word lessons because she does way more than that) we would be lost. When I got him I knew he had only had a couple months training so looking back now I think the guy who originaly broke him and trained did a good job, but I can tell you it still ain't good enough he can outsmart me whenever he wants so he is going for more and when he gets back I will be too. I have put a lot of money, time and resources into this guy already and I am going to spend a lot more over at least the next couple of years until I feel 100% comfortable and safe, money is not a object when I am doing something I love so much but I am glad I waited till I could afford to do it right and safely. I am thinking in my first year I will have at least ten thousand or more into us, what I am trying to say is to really consider everything when your buying a horse you can't just buy horses because they are pretty or cute and don't buy whatever you do thinking that you can train it yourself if you can't, sure you can teach the horse some stuff but you are dealing with your life. I like to think the training part is best left to proffesionals, I mean I am not going to build a house if I can't use a measuring tape right? Same thing. Anyways thanks for the good read tonight I wish I would have read it six months ago and I just want to add that almost anything that has happened with my guy I take 100% responsibility for nothing has been his fault, he looks to me for guidance I am his leader and I have to behave like a leader when I am around him or riding him and even though I am not the best I will do my best, and so far that's all he has asked of me.
         
        10-07-2011, 03:02 AM
      #114
    Weanling
    I thought i'd share my experience and how I learnt from it.
    Being a nieve 19 year old after 2 months of riding lessons, an oppotunity to own my first horse arrived, a 16.2 1/2hh mare 1/4 tb 3/4 wb, ?? Years old as she was never branded. At first I was scared of her, she had the worst ground manners and was pushy and impaitent. I taught her ground manners and paitence from just think how I want her to act and I did it. 6 months later, this green horse started bucking, rearing, stopping on trails, running sideways out of the arena and backing when asked to go forward. I decided she diserved better then me. I sold her to an experienced eventing home.
    6 months later I bought another horse, 15hh 7yo TB, I was told she would be perfect for pony clubs and beginners. The owner wouldn't ride her, she took off on me and had a little hissy fit, but I bought her anyways think she was testing me out. She reared and spun til 'd come off, buck continually, run backwards into fences, run me at trees, I couldn't take her out. I owned her for 11 months, I had her that long because I thought I gave up on Elly too soon. Sold her and then bought ozzie on the same day. I still own ozzie

    Then last january (4 1/2 years on) I got offered a free horse, I was looking for my next eventer. I looked at Marco, 16.2hh TB 5yo off the track a few months ago. He was nice, rode away from other horses from property on the road no drama, jumped, rode on buckle in walk trot canter. Had the "i will try" attitude. I took him home, he was under weight so I feed him up and he stacked on weight, took him out to a xc and show jump training back, was an angel! The weight increased and the real him started to show, he started pawing, kicking out at me in the paddock and bucking. I got the kicking out thing under control with rules at dinner time, once he was fat I stopped hard feeding and put him on rolls. Then I started again in april, he was back to square one. He also got serperation anxiety. So I started again. Then I took him out to a riding club. Before summer (NOV - FEB) I took him to jumping lessons off property nd he was ok but bucking. So back to riding club in april, he was ok but bucking over jumps, then on one he got me off, I landed on my feet, then went down on my knees, he lined me up and double barrelled me in the face! Less then 2 weeks later after advertising very honestly the old owner took him back, he's now with a lady that does natural horsemanship stuff and is fully informed of his issues.
    6 months on, I got a new horse (in april) and am enjoying him! 8yo TB 16.1hh his name is Barney and we are AWESOME!!!!
         
        10-31-2011, 11:53 PM
      #115
    Foal
    I just read a few of these posts about the PROBLEM horse and I just bought a mare that is a problem.She has had many owners, and ended up at a sale auction a few times and now I know I don't have what it takes to 'fix' her.she is a big mess. Bites at everyone and twirls her butt around to kick. Rears while apllying the halter....She was told to the previous owners that she is rideable and kid broke. And I have seen pics, but I don't know what to do with her .I know she is drop dead gorgeous and nice bloodlines.but I don't want to give up and would not try and mess with her as I am not that NO IT ALL in the round pen .Does anyone think I might be able to get a real trainer by talkin to a vet>?and letting him know all her faults>?Im really wanting her to be a good saddle horse but she is 8 years old and I think she was beat all along the way or just sold if soneone couldnt control her......any comments>? HELP me with a few solutions, should I get rid of her since I just bought her or give her a chance>?Her name is Magic but I call her Heavens magic...she is beautiful and I think I don't want to give up!!
         
        11-02-2011, 07:23 PM
      #116
    Foal
    I got thrown from my horse day before yesterday. Concussion with an ankle sprain....had to keep me overnight in the hospital for observation. Now I bought Cisco two years ago, he's a 16 year old quarter horse morgan. He's always been very pushy and disrespectful on the ground but always been very good under saddle...never a bad incident at all ...very sound.
    Last week we were riding the road and he spooked and threw me but stayed by my side til I got back on him. This time, we were just quietly walking on the road and out of nowhere he started bucking and rearing. I held on for awhile but finally flew off. My girlfriends tell me he kept doing the same thing even after I was off. I don't know what got into him. The rest of the horses were fine, no spook. I just can't figure it out if it's just a fluke that it happened twice in a row or not a coincedence at all. What do you think?
         
        01-05-2012, 07:04 AM
      #117
    Yearling
    I went through this but it was a gradual downgrade. When I first purchased the horse everything was great. As time went on, however, little things popped up..more fence refusals, more frequent and severe, as in leaving me on the opposite side of the ring, type shying, a rear or two when especially spooked. The horse was a dream on the ground but as soon as I got on his back......

    I was jumping him over a crossrail and it was a textbook jump into, over and out, yet, the horse planted his feet two strides on and just tossed me..I ended up with a broken arm and 6 months of the loss of use of my hand due to nerve damage from the required surgery. He was checked and had no saddle fitting issues, back issues, lameness etc.

    I went another 18 months with this horse but my nerves and lack of confidence and trust in him was telling and it got to the point that if I tried to get anything more than a trot out of him he would buck me off. I finally gave in and gave him up and got another horse who gave me back my riding confidence though my jumping confidence is still low even though the new horse was very good at taking care of me over fences. Sadly I lost that horse a few months back but he was the one that kept me from giving up on riding completely.

    I have ridden many problem horses and for years was the one my instructors would put on the new horses or problem horses. As was remarked here, it was a very profound sense of failure and one I still struggle with even nearly 4 years later.
         
        01-06-2012, 08:48 PM
      #118
    Foal
    I am 52 years old and don't bounce anymore! I absolutely loved your post, Justdressagit! My quarter horse/Morgan gelding has become too much for me. I have been in a quandary as to what to do but your post has really helped with my decision. I'm not going to play the hero, I will find a good home for him and find a horse again that I can trust and will build my confidence up again. Thanks for your advice!
         
        01-23-2012, 04:30 PM
      #119
    Foal
    I was in this exact situation a few months ago, very recently. The horse (yes, the love of my life, imagine that.. haha) kicked me in the head by accident. I was bent over, looking at a cut on the inside of his left hind, and something spooked him, causing him to jump and kick me.. this sent my parents over the edge, immediately putting him up for sale. Yet, because of how far we had come together (trained him to be "the one to beat" in the jumper ring, after two years of hard training) I felt like this was an unfair decision for both me and the horse, yet I completely understood where my parents were coming from. I worked extra hard with him in these past months, trying to prove to them how good of a horse he really was, and that he wasnt a dangerous monster. Finally they relented and allowed me to keep him, and it was the best decision for all of us (=
    FrancesB likes this.
         
        01-23-2012, 09:37 PM
      #120
    rob
    Weanling
    I agree with you totally jd it,because so many people think that once you own a horse,you are automatically a trainer.
         

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Lacey "playing" in the sunshine! Wallaby Horse Pictures 5 02-19-2010 12:05 AM
    Clinton Anderson videos: "Gaining Respect & Control 1-2-3" and "Leads & Lead Changes" Velvetgrace Tack and Equipment Classifieds 5 09-18-2009 06:54 PM
    Definitions of "Green" "Started" "Broke" etc... Horse Hippie Horse Training 12 08-31-2009 03:00 PM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:41 AM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0