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        09-07-2008, 07:58 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Please Help

    I just got a new horse. He is an appendix and we are keeping him for 4 years because the owner just started collage. She hasn't had much professanal (sp?) training and she mostly trained this horse herself. So she said I could retrain it more my style if its easier. He is calm and very light in your hands but hard to ride because of this. She has been doing hunters on him. He is easy to get going and very calm but when you go to stop him he throws his head up. The weird thing is if you compleatly let out the reins and hold them at the buckle he drops down to a nice walk but any other way he throws his head.

    I am a pretty experianced rider and I know how to stop a horse so please don't say your have to use your legs and hands.

    Does anyone have any advice. HE has a nice headset while he is trotting and cantering and walking but when you try to stop he throws his head and at the walk even with a little contact he holds his head high.

    Any help??
         
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        09-07-2008, 09:14 PM
      #2
    Trained
    Will he respond just to your seat to stop?

    Sounds to me like he doesn't like any contact at all. Maybe the bit is bothering him? Or maybe he is super sensitive since you say he is so light and therefore could work with an easier bit?
         
        09-08-2008, 10:28 PM
      #3
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by northernmama
    Or maybe he is super sensitive since you say he is so light and therefore could work with an easier bit?
    That's the 1st thing that poped in my head when read this....
         
        09-09-2008, 09:09 AM
      #4
    Green Broke
    Wouldn't surprise me if he knew a seat stop.

    Why not call/email the owner and see how she did it.

    If he's young, it could also be his teeth.
         
        09-09-2008, 10:53 AM
      #5
    Showing
    I agree with Kickshaw especially about his teeth; but I'd like to know what bit you are using and is it the same as what he had. Did he do that before or is it a new habit?
         
        09-09-2008, 04:42 PM
      #6
    Foal
    A lot of the hunter horses seem to have been taught that contact means hanging or constantly pulling on their mouth instead of being light with their hands. I don't mean any disrespect to anyone who rides hunters, but from personal experience it seems that a lot of the basic principles are skipped, such as true collection and giving, most of the time they just pull their heads in until they are bridled, but usually all through the face....so I'm guessing he is use to having his face hung on or pulled on instead of giving. I'd go back to some basics with him on rounding and softening at the walk, a lot of bending, and then start with the whoa from the walk trying to keep him soft and trying not to pull or hand on his mouth. Sounds like he was just ridden with a lot of hard hand and needs to be softened up....and not hung on. That is my two cents, and again I am only talking about some of my personal run ins and hunter type riders and horses in my area, but it does seem to be a big trend here.....sorry....
         
        09-09-2008, 08:42 PM
      #7
    Foal
    I just found out but this horse is compleatly blind in one eye. I don't think this affects this though
         
        09-15-2008, 04:56 PM
      #8
    Foal
    I agree with going back to the basics. It might have been a whole when he was younger and ignored to get more, quicker (if that makes sense). I would start at the walk and get him giving laterally and vertically. When he does that well, go into the trot, etc. He should come around. Wish you luck!!!
         
        09-16-2008, 02:47 AM
      #9
    Foal
    stopping

    Have you tried just telling him 'WHOA'? My horses are all trained for it. They even stop when I say a word that sounds like it. Just a thought.
         
        09-16-2008, 10:47 AM
      #10
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by valleychick2121
    I would start at the walk and get him giving laterally and vertically.
    Please describe "giving laterally and vertically". Are these terms in relation to english riding? Or all types of riding?

    Thanks.
         

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