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        01-15-2007, 05:48 PM
    There are lots of energy providers out there. Umm I'd check out and check what they have. If she's not running fast enough to win there's only so much you can do to get them to run faster. Maybe she's already at her limit?
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        01-15-2007, 06:01 PM
    Well she's not really calm anyway so I'll look into red cell. Thanks T-Bone.

    I know she's not at her limit yet because I've seen her run faster, I just can't get her to give it to me when we're running the pattern.

    What training techniques should I be using, so I can compare them to my own? (I know that sounded kind of rude, but I didn't mean for it to be. I just can't think of another way to put it!) Thanks, child in time.

    And thanks Raini for the website, I take a look at it!
        01-15-2007, 06:50 PM
    Umm....We tried to gallop mike once....or twice....never worked...sarah even tried.....


    Training- You could always try to tap her on the butt, but not on the shoulder cause the impolsion comes from behind.

    Horses move away from pressure...pressure on the side will make the horse move to the other side..pressure on the front will make the horse step back....Pressure on the back will result with moving you get what I am saying......

    Another way that my friend Rachel put it is that a horse is a tube a toothpaste when squeeze both sides the toothpaste comes out....or the energy....if that makes since....
        01-15-2007, 10:53 PM
    Thanks for that. I always run with a crop so the pressure thing isn't working, but I'll try running with an over & under and go with the toothpaste thing and see if that works.
        01-15-2007, 10:56 PM
    Run out in the pasture. Let her realize that she has speed.

    But not all horses are barrel horses. It's about heart, and a lot don't have it. Nothing you can do to change the facts.

        01-16-2007, 11:08 AM
    I have a large horse with very long strides and can cover huge amounts of ground quickly. When asked to barrel race, he trots around barrels and takes days. He does not like the particular sport in any way.
    In my opinion, if you want a successful horse that will dedicate 100 percent, they must love the work they are being asked to do. I believe it's only fair. If your horse isn't a racer, don't force it. As for a feed suppliment to gain speed - forget it. There are no quick fixes, I promise. When adding an additional energy suppliment, she with have more energy, but you can not increase her physical ability and speed. She will more then likely stay at the same pace, only longer.
    She may be telling you her disapproval over running the barrels. I think it's obvious in her change of speed versus her potential speed in my opinion. Are you also taking into consideration the sprint, the anticipation between turns, the physics of a turn and the time it takes to regain speed after a turn? Your horse may be giving it all she has - I don't know the horse, so I may be making the wrong assumptions.
        01-16-2007, 03:40 PM
    I agree with Kristy, and I belive there were alot of other people who were trying to touch up to this but Kristy came straight to the point.
        01-17-2007, 12:04 AM
    I'm pretty sure she likes it. Because I have tried so many different things with her and she simply refused to do any of them. She's way to hyper to do western pleasure and I personally don't like english myself. She loves to trail ride but when I take her to places like Knobnoster if I let her she just runs the whole thing. Rodeo is the first thing I've actually been able to get her to do. She's willing to go into the gate everytime she sees the barrels or poles and she has a very consistent good pattern. I took her to an NBHA race and she had four runs and she ran three 16.4's and a 16.3 she always runs the same but in my new association it's not enough. I've seen horses who have run the whole pattern with their ears pinned back (not like when they're doing it to run faster but like when their mad) and horses who won't go in and when you finally get them in they mess up the whole pattern. She doesn't do any of that. I really think I just haven't gotten her full speed from her. I'm going to try some of you're suggestions as soon as I am able. We have had really bad ice here and it's been hard to even get out to the stable to get her. But as soon as I can I'll see what works and let you guys know. Thanks to everyone for all you're help!
        01-17-2007, 02:58 AM
    Child in time, I believe Red Cell is a liquid Iron suppliment that you add to horse's feed (usually pellets or sweet feed) and it helps them recover from illnesses better, and keep their immune system up, and even help them recover from colds quicker. At least, that's what we used it for :)
        01-17-2007, 11:12 AM
    In my area there is a lot of iron already in the well water so you need to be careful and research all suppliments that you want to give. You don't want your horse to recieve too much of one mineral or vitamin, it can have a bad affect.

    Also how long have you been training this mare? I think if it's been for a while I would take her out on a long trail ride or just give her a break. I have found that when I gave my western pleasure horse a break from the normal routine, he would give me 100% the next lesson.

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