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post #1 of 63 Old 11-19-2011, 09:31 AM Thread Starter
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Question ! Please Help my Horse Hates Me !

Hi, I purchased an Appaloosa X Welsh filly tw0 months ago, she is now 5 months old and an absolute nightmare, as much as I love her I can't handle her on my own, she panics when tied up and she goes crazy when you try and pick out her feet out. When you go into the field she turns her hindquarters on you and she recently tried to kick a family member, I'm here to see if anybody can help, its her last chance..

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post #2 of 63 Old 11-19-2011, 10:07 AM
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Have you tried working with her feet while she's being fed? Just a thought.

At 5 months she's just a baby.
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Have you tried working with her feet while she's being fed? Just a thought.

At 5 months she's just a baby.
I've tried lots of things, I like to train my horses when they are young so that they know better when they are older .

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When she panics when tied do you untie her? If so she just won... Tie her at wither hight to a solid post using an inner tube of a tire between the post and your rope. When she panics and pulls the tire will pull her back. Leave her there til she will stand quietly. She will learn that pulling is doing nothing but tiring her out. Gradually increase the time you tie her up. For the first time I would leave her about 15 minutes and just let her fight it out with the inner tube.
About her feet... start slow. Just touch her foot and move away, once she accepts this pick it up an inch or so and put it back down. Work slowly up to picking it up and holding it without fighting. Even as young as she is she is still bigger and stronger than you so if it ends in a fight she will win. Don't let it get to that point. If you can't even touch her foot withough freaking her out then start at the top of the leg and slide your hand down until she starts to pull away, slide back up and repeat. Eventually she will let you get lower and lower until you are at the foot and able to pick it up. About turning her butt on you when you go out to catch her, I would try and run her into a roundpen or smaller pasture and then work her in the roundpen. She is young so keep it to a very minimum, enough to get her to respect you but don't work the crap out of her. It sounds like all in all your problems stem from a lack of respect. Yes she is young but she still needs to learn that you are the boss and that is final.
Good luck! Let us know how it goes!
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When she panics when tied do you untie her? If so she just won... Tie her at wither hight to a solid post using an inner tube of a tire between the post and your rope. When she panics and pulls the tire will pull her back. Leave her there til she will stand quietly. She will learn that pulling is doing nothing but tiring her out. Gradually increase the time you tie her up. For the first time I would leave her about 15 minutes and just let her fight it out with the inner tube.
About her feet... start slow. Just touch her foot and move away, once she accepts this pick it up an inch or so and put it back down. Work slowly up to picking it up and holding it without fighting. Even as young as she is she is still bigger and stronger than you so if it ends in a fight she will win. Don't let it get to that point. If you can't even touch her foot withough freaking her out then start at the top of the leg and slide your hand down until she starts to pull away, slide back up and repeat. Eventually she will let you get lower and lower until you are at the foot and able to pick it up. About turning her butt on you when you go out to catch her, I would try and run her into a roundpen or smaller pasture and then work her in the roundpen. She is young so keep it to a very minimum, enough to get her to respect you but don't work the crap out of her. It sounds like all in all your problems stem from a lack of respect. Yes she is young but she still needs to learn that you are the boss and that is final.
Good luck! Let us know how it goes!
Thankyou so much! I will start work on monday, lets just hope all goes well! .

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You are 13 years old, right? You are not qualified to be this horse's "last chance," and you are not qualified to be a trainer. This is a baby. She's totally fixable, but she needs an experienced hand. Don't make her pay for your shortcomings. Sell her to a competent home or hire a professional to work with her.
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First off you're horse doesn't hate you, she is just a foal and doesn't know anything about how she is expected to act until you show her. Of course she's going to panic when she's tied, she doesn't know what being tied is. I'd first make sure she leads well and respects the halter. Then when you do tie her make sure it's a safe place where she can't get hurt. It's okay to let her struggle and figure things out, just be close by if she does get into trouble. I wouldn't worry about the feet until you get her tieing well.

When dealing with her out in the field I'd take a horsmanship flag or a lunge whip with you, if you have the whip hold the lash with the handle so it's essentially a long stick. When she turns her rear to you send her away. Don't hit her and don't chase her! Just wave it at her rearend to let her know that's unacceptable behavior. Approach her again if she puts her but to you send her away and do it again until she faces you. This may take some time but it's a valuable lesson for her.
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You are 13 years old, right? You are not qualified to be this horse's "last chance," and you are not qualified to be a trainer. This is a baby. She's totally fixable, but she needs an experienced hand. Don't make her pay for your shortcomings. Sell her to a competent home or hire a professional to work with her.
I didn't say I am her trainer. I am experienced and I have experienced people around me that are willing to lend me a hand, I only made this post so that I could get some ideas that will help her become a better horse that I will be able to handle in the future! I didnt come on here for you to tell me that I need to sell my horse, I know she is fixable. Thankyou very much!
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post #9 of 63 Old 11-19-2011, 11:19 AM Thread Starter
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First off you're horse doesn't hate you, she is just a foal and doesn't know anything about how she is expected to act until you show her. Of course she's going to panic when she's tied, she doesn't know what being tied is. I'd first make sure she leads well and respects the halter. Then when you do tie her make sure it's a safe place where she can't get hurt. It's okay to let her struggle and figure things out, just be close by if she does get into trouble. I wouldn't worry about the feet until you get her tieing well.

When dealing with her out in the field I'd take a horsmanship flag or a lunge whip with you, if you have the whip hold the lash with the handle so it's essentially a long stick. When she turns her rear to you send her away. Don't hit her and don't chase her! Just wave it at her rearend to let her know that's unacceptable behavior. Approach her again if she puts her but to you send her away and do it again until she faces you. This may take some time but it's a valuable lesson for her.
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Thankyou! I only put she hates me as a good title, I know she doesnt really! I will keep your ideas in mind, thanks again.

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post #10 of 63 Old 11-19-2011, 11:27 AM
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Unfortunately we can't tell how experienced you are, apart from reading what you post and there is nothing in your OP that says experienced, or has a lot of people around to help, so that is why Bubba replied as she did
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