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        11-22-2010, 12:40 PM
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    Foal
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    Hi everyone,

    I have posted before about my horses attitude, and I'm able to handle it I just don't understand why it is not stopping. My guy is 7 this year and he is an OTTB. When I get on him he is always great to ride walk trot, lots of transitions and patterns, but some days (not all of them) He is a really big jerk to canter. I go to ask him to canter and somtimes he bucks sometimes he takes off and then starts bucking or he will start spooking at everything ( this does not happen UNTILL I ask for a canter) Now this is not every ride some rides he is amazing, if he knows he's going to be jumping he is always amazing. But somedays when I just do flat he acts like that, its driving me nuts! Everytime he starts bolting or bucking I will ride him untill he stop doing it but like I'm loosing hope that it will stop! Is this somthing anyone else deals with? I have talked to my trainer and she says that with more work it will go away... but its not! He can go a week of being really good and then all of a sudden he is a jerk again.

    Ps- I have had the vet check him and he is in no pain, also had his saddle checked and it fits fine. He's always got his ears perked and happy until I ask for him to canter. Everyone I'm around says he always looks like he enjoys working. Everyone says he's just a energetic perky horse.

    Sorry for the essay, I'm just getting at the end of my rope and I wanted to see what everyone thought.
         
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        11-22-2010, 12:53 PM
      #2
    Foal
    I'm glad you did the vet check, that would be the most obvious problem.. I know you said you got your saddle checked but have you tried riding him bareback? My mare was having issues, not bucking but just being totally out of character I let her have some time off and she still was being silly. I now ride her bareback and it has cut her issues by 90%, even though the saddle apparently "fits". It might be worth a try to see how he feels bareback, although it's easier said than done since I have a nice comfy paint to ride, no high wither nonsense lol.

    More information would be great, how long have you had him? Did he come like this? Has your trainer ridden him and experienced the same problems? How long have you been with this trainer, do you fully trust their capabilities in helping you and your horse?
         
        11-22-2010, 12:56 PM
      #3
    Foal
    I know you've had a Vet check him. Maybe consider a Chiro though. I have had very good responses with Chiropractic work on situations like this. Yes, it doesn't mean that's your case but it's the first thing that comes to mind. Otherwise if he's just frisky continue to work his butt! He needs to learn it's absolutely unacceptable.
         
        11-22-2010, 01:10 PM
      #4
    Foal
    Thanks for responding. I have had him for just over a year now. When I got him he was great I never had any issues. Once I actually bought him and brought him to a new barn is when everything started happening. At first he started just bucking when cantering, he did this with my trainer on him as well, we had the vet check him then and there were no problems but his saddle was not fitting him well, I have bought him a new saddle now that fits him great, the bucking did stop for a while then came back. I had been trying to work threw it when I got the vet to do a chiro check and we had found out his back was hurting him. My vet injected cotisol into his back and he had 3 weeks of rest. Once I got back on him he was doing really well not bucking or anything. THEN about 2 months ago he sliced his knee open he was off for almost a month. We have just moved to a new barn last month and once I put him back into work it got even worse for 3 rides then he was great for almost 2 weeks. But my last 3 rides he was acting up again. I'm just at a loss... he's got soooo much talent, and i'm not giving up on him... im just getting frusterated
         
        11-22-2010, 01:13 PM
      #5
    Foal
    Forgot to add he also had an issue this summer with being really lathargic, vet had me put him on 2 months of MegaBlud and now he is on red c daily.
         
        11-22-2010, 01:15 PM
      #6
    Foal
    Sorry one more lol, he also is a charater, and always has a bit of an attitude even if he is being good.
         
        11-22-2010, 01:21 PM
      #7
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Sketter    
    Thanks for responding. I have had him for just over a year now. When I got him he was great I never had any issues. Once I actually bought him and brought him to a new barn is when everything started happening. At first he started just bucking when cantering, he did this with my trainer on him as well, we had the vet check him then and there were no problems but his saddle was not fitting him well, I have bought him a new saddle now that fits him great, the bucking did stop for a while then came back. I had been trying to work threw it when I got the vet to do a chiro check and we had found out his back was hurting him. My vet injected cotisol into his back and he had 3 weeks of rest. Once I got back on him he was doing really well not bucking or anything. THEN about 2 months ago he sliced his knee open he was off for almost a month. We have just moved to a new barn last month and once I put him back into work it got even worse for 3 rides then he was great for almost 2 weeks. But my last 3 rides he was acting up again. I'm just at a loss... he's got soooo much talent, and i'm not giving up on him... im just getting frusterated
    I would suggest having him adjusted again. It really does sound to me that he is in pain again. More often than not, they need to be adjusted then worked and build up strength and muscle to hold the adjustment. And since you said he had time off then that could be it. I say adjust him again start working him and continue to have him checked throughout you getting him fit and see if that doesn't help him.
         
        11-22-2010, 01:52 PM
      #8
    Foal
    Since the horse has been checked over by the vet, and there are no tack issues, I'd look to what you're feeding him, how much, and how much turnout he's getting. Maybe he needs more turnout to burn off that excess energy. I've heard Red C can make some horses have more energy. I don't know that for sure tho, just what I've heard.
         
        11-22-2010, 02:01 PM
      #9
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    What has changed at the new barn versus the old barn?

    Could it be as simple as he gets stressed when moved and he might have ulcers?
    Is the food different? Is turn out different?
         
        11-22-2010, 02:13 PM
      #10
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sketter    
    ... if he knows he's going to be jumping he is always amazing. But somedays when I just do flat he acts like that...
    You said that he is always perfect when he knows he is going to be jumping. Maybe since he is such a character the flat work just plain bores him. I know a few horses like that, they hate doing flat work but will put up with it if they know they get to jump at the end of the lesson. I've found that some horses just like to do certain things and put up a fuss if they can't do those things.
         

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