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post #1 of 20 Old 03-13-2010, 09:37 PM Thread Starter
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Points of training too many people tend to overlook?

I have started to notice some trends in points of training that people neglect to train. Examples:

-desensitizing to a dressage arena+judge's box before a dressage show. Trust me, it will save you a lot of trouble!

-desensitizing a horse to the trailer before you actually need to transport the horse. It is a good idea to load a horse in, let him wait for a while eating hay, and unload him without having to go anywhere.

-trail rides for arena working horses. It desensitizes the horse to a lot of spooky factors and is very healthy for their minds.

-being touched on the face. Whether this is a lack of training or a result of bad training, some horses seem to avoid a human's hand even if it is with a soft face brush.

What points of training do you often think people overlook?

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post #2 of 20 Old 03-13-2010, 09:43 PM
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I think a lot of people miss socializing the horse to other horses. I feel that if they are introduced to being worked around other horses that it would cut down on the trying to kick at or bite other horses when riding in a group.
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All of the mares I have ever bought hate their teats being cleaned. They would kick, buck, pull back, rear. You name it they did it. I think that is often neglected because its not the funnest thing to do and they just overlook it.

Water! My friend is a CC rider and she has trialled about 4 horses over the past 6 months and these supposed jumpers would not jump water. They would happily walk and splash in it, but they wouldn't jump it. I don't care if your horse isn't a jumper, they should at least be comfortable in it.

Washing horses faces! I hate when people say that you can quite easily wash a horse but as soon as your put a sponge or hose or even a mister near their face, they pull back or toss their head.
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I find people in my area dont overlook those points in the training, but they do overlook the trail riding thing, I board at a dressage barn and i have seen some amazingly crazy horses come through here, I have actually wondered how horses get that crazy! but those are some interesting points that are critical to train, haha my very first show i went to was a schooling show and my horse didnt want to go up to the judges box, haha luckily he was willing, so after some encouragement he did :P
I think the training point i have seen most people overlook was cross training for the horse, like you said, their minds NEED something other then just dressage, or just jumping, otherwise i find they turn into robots. and robots tend to explode when you overload them with information ;)

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-trail rides for arena working horses. It desensitizes the horse to a lot of spooky factors and is very healthy for their minds.
This is definitely one thing barrel racers need to pay attention to. Because the majority of the work they do is in the arena it is very easy for the horse to have gate problems & become arena sour. It is really good for all horses in strenuous sports such as dressage & jumping... helps keep them from getting burned out on their main job. This definitely is one thing a lot of people don't pay attention to & sadly they end up having a cranky horse who doesn't enjoy its job.
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Oh dear, I come from a really backwater ignorant area, let the list begin!!

- Foundation training (basic handling and groundwork, they just throw a saddle and bridle on, let it buck and ride the crap out of it, they do no actually train the horse)

-Basic handling of all parts (face, hooves, genitals, ears, ect., they expect horses to automatically allow them to do this)

- water crossing

- leg yielding and yielding their bodies in general, seat cues

-not relying on their reins to stop and their legs to go

- general desensitizing

- trailer loading

- tying

- hobbling, yielding of legs

-bathing, clipping, doctoring

- trailer loading and unloading

I could go on and on...seems a lot of people now a days grow up with a trainer and have no clue how to actually train a horse, but assume that they do because the one that they worked with a trainer on is even ride-able... Or little girls liking to think they are gods gift to horses yet they constantly ask obvious questions because they really know squat. In all I think the biggest problem is general lack of education and unwillingness to learn and take the time to study training practices and grasp that knowledge foundation.

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This is definitely one thing barrel racers need to pay attention to. Because the majority of the work they do is in the arena it is very easy for the horse to have gate problems & become arena sour. It is really good for all horses in strenuous sports such as dressage & jumping... helps keep them from getting burned out on their main job. This definitely is one thing a lot of people don't pay attention to & sadly they end up having a cranky horse who doesn't enjoy its job.
I will add to this having all speeds done in the arena on speed horses. We have barrel horses, and they don't go unless you ask them. I have seen some horses that as soon as they see an arena they think its go time. IMO all horses should be able to walk and trot at the arena without loosing their heads.
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I like the hobbling one. to go along with that I'll add:

-standing calmly when tied. (our horses spend hours tied to learn this one)

-not pawing while tied (hobbles can be helpful in training this one...if they start pawing they get hobbles, if not their legs stay free)

-tying on a highline (I hate it when people tie out their horse and the horse acts like a complete idiot all night. Teach it what to do so it doesn't hurt itself or others.)

My pet peeve is simple manners when riding in a group. Both the horse and rider should know the basic rules.
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My pet peeve is simple manners when riding in a group. Both the horse and rider should know the basic rules.
Oh, big one! I went on a trail ride once and for like 30 minutes my moms friends girl was pulling branches as she want by and letting them smack at me and anyone else behind her until I rode up next to her and threatened to make her ride double with me until she could learn some manners... Her mom acted like everything was all fine even when someone was thrown because of it.

So I will add:

-Training your kids to horses, most people seem to think a kid cant hurt a horse, but it is very possible and probable.

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At least around here, no one seems to train their horses to easily pick up their feet for routine hoof stuff! I have met SO many horses that are really rank about having their feet handled, older horses, especially, should know this stuff! I don't want the horse leaning on me, s/he needs to hold him/herself up and s/he should pop his/her hooves up with very little prodding on my part.
It's not hard either! Lacey used to always lean on me, she actually fell over a few times when I first started working with her, and I'd have to practically drag her feet up myself. After only a few months of picking them out twice a week in the same order, in a low drama sort of way, yknow what? She stopped leaning on me and started picking up her feet as soon as I squeeze her fetlock. Nowadays she picks the hoof up before I even touch her leg and she'll move herself around if she's in a bad spot to be able to take her weight off of her leg.
My farrier has actually complimented me on how easy it is to get Lacey to lift her feet, which I find rather sad since Lacey isn't nearly as good as I would like to see her be. Sure, she's better than the average horse around here but she's not "perfect" yet. Haha

Maybe it's because I always let her see the hoof pick so she has a cue but still! it's not hard! That really makes me irritated, especially since hooves are SO important and can be so dangerous without the proper training. For instance, at my camp that I volunteer at (the horses mostly come directly from the auction) I was messing with a pretty calm horse and I went to pick out his back feet. I ran my hand down his back leg (after having an easy time with the fronts) and as soon as I picked up his foot, he was freaking out and trying very hard to kick me! Not fun. Needless to say, that horse got a bunch more comfortable with having his feet touched that summer.


But yeah, how can people let a horse get to be 15 without being good about it's feet? I just don't get it.

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