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    10-16-2010, 08:38 AM
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Foal
Question Pony Kicked Me - What do you do

We have a new pony. She is a 2 - 1/2 yr old mare. We also have a 5 - 1/2 yr old gelding miniature horse. They needed a new home & although we are NOVICES I hated to see them seperated and the children loved them. I love them, too. I realize that at this stage, anything that has happened is basically because they have let it happen. They do have to be stalled for awhile as they came from a dirt pony yard to ours that is still full of green grass that I let grow for them. I didn't consider FOunder & so restrict them and am weaning in.

We are into Week one today. For 2 days now, when I say go home, Rocky runs to the pen. Yesterday, as I was praising him and wishing he would let me pet him, Shug, the mare, came up & kicked me. I have never been kicked & it got my hand, esp. The middle finger. I was so shocked that all I could think was put it in the trough so It feels better. After about4 minutes, I went back up and got her on the lead. She did fine but stood stockstill when I took her in.

What should I have done or should I do, please. She is more social than Rocky but I notice she is jealous if we look at him. She pinned her ears back before it happened.

I want this to work for our family & I appreciate your time and advice.
     
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    10-16-2010, 08:56 AM
  #2
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by cjedsall    
What should I have done or should I do, please. She is more social than Rocky but I notice she is jealous if we look at him. She pinned her ears back before it happened.
Some horses to get jealous, but regardless, you need to establish the rules. If a horse ever turns their butt to you or makes a kicking motion towards you, immediately act BIG, yell, smack them, run them off, and go about your business like it didn't happen. This is how a lead horse handles that behavior in the herd, and the 'run off' horse will eventually approach with a better attitude to be 'accepted' back into the 'herd'.
     
    10-16-2010, 09:01 AM
  #3
Started
Do you have any access at all to a trainer, or someone with more horse experience? 2 1/2 and 5 1/2 are both young - you're essentially dealing with a 5 year old and a 12 year old on the maturity scale. As a novice, you'll need some on-site guidance, especially with such relatively young horses, and by the sound of it sooner rather than later.

Kicking cannot be tolerated, and your window to make this known to your filly is about 3 seconds - longer than that and she won't associate the correction with her infraction. Whether she was "just testing" or being more serious in her behavior, the rule still holds.

If my horse had kicked at me, he would have thought that I'd gone insane... drive the horse out of my space as fast as I can get those feet to move. If it takes a smack it takes a smack, with my hand, a brush, whatever. It will not hurt the horse - compared to another horse exercising the same authority it's nothing at all. That being said, it takes timing and no hesitation to be effective, something that, as a novice, you may not be able to accomplish right away.

Alongside recruiting some on-site help (either a trainer, instructor, or horsey friend), keep researching - your filly probably gave you some advance warning that she was thinking about kicking. Look for pinned ears, stiffness, no blinking, clamped tail, etc., and take that as your warning and nip it in the bud before she escalates to kicking.

Also, make sure that your family understands the concept of "the danger zone" and exercises extreme caution around both of their rear ends - either come behind them close enough that you're rubbing their bum (too close for a kick to have much force behind it) or 10 feet away (too far to reach).

Best of luck!
     
    10-16-2010, 09:12 AM
  #4
Foal
Thank you to both - excellent advice. I do have several very experienced individuals who are able to help me out. I found htis forum & thought it never hurts to have more advice.
     
    10-16-2010, 09:18 AM
  #5
Foal
As I was rereading the first post I had something come to my mind. She has turned her butt to me a couple of times before the kick. It wasn't 3-4 mintues later , she came up and tried muzzling or nuzzling me & I thought, "Well, she is trying to make friends or something - she knew she was wrong."

Also, The children and I have been talking about the danger zone of horses. When the 4 yr old saw Shug kick he said, Oh, now I know why. If that is all it would take for him to learn the lesson, it was worth it.

I thank you once again. I am excited for the day.
     
    10-16-2010, 11:23 AM
  #6
Green Broke
I was always taught to kickback, with anything youcan, a foot to the belly usually sends a good strong message about how it is NOT tolerated. Then I would chase her from the group to show her I'm boss and you NEVER kick the boss.
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    10-16-2010, 11:52 AM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by cjedsall    
It wasn't 3-4 mintues later , she came up and tried muzzling or nuzzling me & I thought, "Well, she is trying to make friends or something - she knew she was wrong."
This is not how horses think. Thinking they do will get you or someone else hurt.

Sunny had a kicking problem when I first bought her. As soon as her butt turned to me I would turn into the Incredible Hulk. I would yell, raise my arms, chase her off; I made her think her life was about to end. Then I would act like nothing happened. I had to do that maybe twice and she has never tried it again.
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    10-16-2010, 01:18 PM
  #8
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My mare has had very little handling, and she has kicked me on two occasions, both because she got so focused on something else that she forgot I was there, and when I touched her butt to get her to move over, and regain her attention, she kicked. I basically yank her head towards me, smack her butt, and make her move her butt away from me, and then I do a lot of making her feet move, and make her focus on me instead of whatever she was looking at. Now if she was kicking at me for any other reason, I would situation provided chase her off, yell scream ect., and then let her back only so long as she behaves.
     
    10-16-2010, 01:43 PM
  #9
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I agree with the other posters that kicking cannot be tolerated.
If the mare is the dominant horse, then I would recommend that you take HER inside before the other horse. She should be fed first and lead first. It will be easier for all concerned.
You migt want to spend some time establishing YOUR dominance over her. Move her around whenever she starts giving you the vibes that she is jealous of your attention to the other horse. Just start pushing her around a bit, then let her go and turn to the other horse.
Pony's are more willing to challenge humans than horses are.
     
    10-16-2010, 01:44 PM
  #10
Super Moderator
By "pushing" I don't mean literally pushing her. You don't want to be that close. I mean using your energy, or your energy supplimented by a swinging leadrope to mover her feet and get a shift in her attitude. You can tell because she will move away and her ears will no longer be pinned.
     

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