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post #1 of 11 Old 12-27-2010, 02:59 AM Thread Starter
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Possible to work properly without a bit?

I was meaning to ask this ages ago, but like the title says is it possible??

I am wondering as I have only been lunging Buzz as it is just to damm hot to ride, I lunge him in a cavesson and nothing else and when we were finished he had like 'white lipstick' as one of the members has called it before.
I always thought the white lipstick ment the horse was accecpting the bit, but since Buzz didn't have a bit in... I'm not to sure
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post #2 of 11 Old 12-27-2010, 08:07 AM
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I've never heard of that Red. Do people use a bit with a cavesson on? I would think that if a horse accepts a bit his mouth would be quite. What type of bit do you use? Do you have any pics of what it looks like to have the white lipstick? Is it slobber?
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post #3 of 11 Old 12-27-2010, 08:11 AM Thread Starter
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No bit, that's why I was so confused it wasn't really slobber
It was just like an outline of whiteness on his lips, like in the inside so you had to lift his lips a little to see all of it.
I hope it's normal..... hmmmm I didn't get any pics though, I may lunge tomorrow so if he does it again I will take pics, but then I am thinking of riding as it's not going to be as hot
I will see tomorrow what I feel like
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I wonder if its like when we get a dry mouth and white stuff gathers on our lips. Hmmm. I know you said its like 30 degrees or something like that but what does that compare to what I would get here in US terms. 100?
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post #5 of 11 Old 12-27-2010, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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maybe... didn't think of it like that
30 is around 90 I just did a conversion thing, you use fahrenheit right?
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post #6 of 11 Old 12-27-2010, 09:55 PM
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Redtree,

There is a gland in the horse's mouth,, top of the throat area, and I don't remember the name of this gland. But if the horse bends at the poll and moves the jaws freely they are supposed to produce that sort of foam you will see slathering the lips of top dressage horses and sometimes flying down in flecks onto their front legs. It is said to be a good thing. That's what I have heard, but I am going only on what I have heard.
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Redtree, you ask if it's possible for them to work 'properly' without a bit. What is your idea of properly?
I'm curious to know to try an figure out what your horse is doing :)
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post #8 of 11 Old 12-28-2010, 01:11 AM Thread Starter
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Tinylily that's what I thought but then I only thought they did that with a bit.... like when it occured they horse was accecpting the bit, but since he didn't have one in his mouth.... that's what got me confused

Aisling-I consider working properly using his bum and not dragging him self around with his forearms, I think he was using his bum but I thought the froth thing ment accecpting the bit

I think I may be confusing myself now lol
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Redtree,

There is a gland in the horse's mouth,, top of the throat area, and I don't remember the name of this gland. But if the horse bends at the poll and moves the jaws freely they are supposed to produce that sort of foam you will see slathering the lips of top dressage horses and sometimes flying down in flecks onto their front legs. It is said to be a good thing. That's what I have heard, but I am going only on what I have heard.
This is what I was taught. It actually has nothing to do with the actual bit, but rather the position of the head and the flexion of the poll.

A little bit of foam means relaxation, a lot of foam or no foam can indicate tension.
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post #10 of 11 Old 12-28-2010, 05:36 PM Thread Starter
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okay... I think it makes sense then
That's good then I have nothing to worry about :) and Buzz is relaxed
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