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    02-08-2013, 02:56 AM
  #1
Weanling
Problem: Horse backing up.

My horse has recently developed a new little trick. When I ask him to halt and stand for a few moments he backs up when I ask him to walk on. He first did it at a jump clinic when we stood in a group waiting for our turn and he refused to walk on when it was our go. He was quite bad and throwing his head at the same time and all I could do was turn him in small circles until he would walk. He has started doing it at home now, towards the end of the ride today when we were practicing transitions and standing square. He got really really cranky and would back up. It wasnt as bad as the first time, but I feel the habit is developing. I found that if I yelled at him and gave him a slap the second he didnt respond to my walk aid and started trying to back up he would walk on okay. If I didnt get it at the right moment, he would take quite a few steps backward and I felt like he wanted to rear when I tried to kick him forward so I had to circle.
Has anyone had this problem, know why it might be happening and the best way to solve it?

I haeva feeling that it is due to him getting tired and thinking halt means the session is over and trying to MAKE it be over.
     
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    02-08-2013, 05:11 PM
  #2
Yearling
Let him back, it will get old. Make sure you're not asking him to back by putting pressure on the reins or giving a seat cue. Sit there and let him back when he stops, , halt for a few seconds, walk forward a few steps and halt again. Wash rinse repeat until he gets tired of it. He's doing it because he has discovered it gets him what he wants - to move forward.
     
    02-08-2013, 05:46 PM
  #3
Foal
I've always been told to loosen the reins so they are loopy and whack him on the back with a crop when that happens.

When my horse was green, he would back up to get out of doing what I wanted. I did put him in small circles then. But loosening the reins (so that there would be no halt aid) and then whacking his butt with a crop would induce forward movement. Then I could reward him for doing what I wanted with a pat and thus prevent the growth of a bad habit.

Not sure if that helps.
     
    02-08-2013, 06:26 PM
  #4
Foal
Refusing to walk..., story of my life. Flicka does the same thing when she wants to be done working. Quite annoying, isn't it? The trick is to give use his bad behavior to your advantage - when he backs up, make him keep backing up. Don't get mad at him - when he starts backing, just keep asking him to back and back for 10+ steps; he'll surely get tired if it soon. After several steps stop asking for the back and see if he'll walk on without complaining. If he's still fussy, ask him to back again. It might take a few tries at first, but soon he'll figure out that he just has to deal with a little more work. It will turn into a bad habit if you let him get away with it too many times.

Oh, and remember to praise him when he walks on so he knows he's doing the right thing!
     
    02-08-2013, 06:50 PM
  #5
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by palogal    
He's doing it because he has discovered it gets him what he wants - to move forward.
How would walking backwards get him to move forward?
     
    02-08-2013, 06:50 PM
  #6
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by ponyface    
refusing to walk..., story of my life. Flicka does the same thing when she wants to be done working. Quite annoying, isn't it? The trick is to give use his bad behavior to your advantage - when he backs up, make him keep backing up. Don't get mad at him - when he starts backing, just keep asking him to back and back for 10+ steps; he'll surely get tired if it soon. After several steps stop asking for the back and see if he'll walk on without complaining. If he's still fussy, ask him to back again. It might take a few tries at first, but soon he'll figure out that he just has to deal with a little more work. It will turn into a bad habit if you let him get away with it too many times.

Oh, and remember to praise him when he walks on so he knows he's doing the right thing!
Thsnkyou!! Ill try this!
     
    02-08-2013, 07:00 PM
  #7
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by ponyface    
refusing to walk..., story of my life. Flicka does the same thing when she wants to be done working. Quite annoying, isn't it? The trick is to give use his bad behavior to your advantage - when he backs up, make him keep backing up. Don't get mad at him - when he starts backing, just keep asking him to back and back for 10+ steps; he'll surely get tired if it soon. After several steps stop asking for the back and see if he'll walk on without complaining. If he's still fussy, ask him to back again. It might take a few tries at first, but soon he'll figure out that he just has to deal with a little more work. It will turn into a bad habit if you let him get away with it too many times.

Oh, and remember to praise him when he walks on so he knows he's doing the right thing!
Totally agree with you! Well said!!!
     
    02-08-2013, 07:07 PM
  #8
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by brookebum    
How would walking backwards get him to move forward?
OP moves him forward to stop the backing.
     
    02-08-2013, 07:08 PM
  #9
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by palogal    
OP moves him forward to stop the backing.
But she said that he back up to get what he wants. ANd suggests that what he wants is to walk forward. If that was the case would he not just.. walk forward? Or better still, walk forward when I say ok walk forward please chap?
     
    02-08-2013, 07:14 PM
  #10
Yearling
He doesn't want to stand still. When he backs he gets out of standing still
     

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