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  • Do backward rearing horses ever get better
  • Pissy horse that rears

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    05-30-2013, 12:00 PM
  #11
Green Broke
HATE rearing threads.

A horse that rears is showing resistance. DO NOT WHACK THE HORSE BETWEEN THE EARS OR ANY OTHER OF THESE FOOLISH IDEAS. When a horse goes up you want the horse back down.. not over on its back or rearing higher.

Resistance can be because of holes in the education (if she was backing up to avoid things before.. the next segue is to rear.. seen that before and this is more of that). The horse has no clear idea of moving forward being the reward. Resistance can also come because the horse was an orphan and has no clear ideas about how a horse behaves or what boundaries are. All in all it adds up to the same thing... a horse that rears to evade a request from the rider or handler.

Golly knows why the horse is rearing. Get the horse gone to someone who understands horses and can train her or get rid of her before someone gets KILLED.

BTW someone who understands horses would not whack the horse over the head.. but would keep the horse moving and not give the horse time to think about backing up and rearing. They would not hold the horse back from going forward.. and let forward be the way out of things.

BEFORE this becomes and ingrained habit and the horse has to be put down, get this horse in professional hands. The more the horse rears, the more the habit becomes ingrained and the more likely the answer is to kill the horse before she kills someone.
     
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    05-30-2013, 12:10 PM
  #12
Trained
100% in agreement with Elana!
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    05-30-2013, 12:20 PM
  #13
Foal
Teeth floating or sore in mouth. Have you tried a Bosel or hacks more?
     
    05-30-2013, 07:43 PM
  #14
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
I would so love to see the old egg trick being done, never seen it, and I know for sure that I would not have the ability to juggle an egg and deal with a pissy rank rearing horse.

I seriously question if a horse does make the connection that an egg trickling down is meant to feel like he is bleeding, I think that a good rap with a whip would be just as affective, if not as messy.
I will join you for a front seat to see this!
I have dealt with many rearers, I am not talking about a horse that hops a foot or so off the ground with its front feet but horses that stand right up.

In this case you have to be riding the horse carrying an egg or a water filled balloon for however long it takes before it rears. Then when it is going up you have to lean forward to not pull the horse over backwards which involves wrapping your arms around its neck, get the balloon or egg and smack the horse over the head with it.
I think not!

Any form of correction has to be done at the right instant and I do not believe this feat of correction is possible.

As for turning the horse's head to the side and driving it forwards this is not always a cure. It works with some horses but with others they will just throw themselves over sideways.

I do not think it would take much to correct this horse. It could well be just a try on. Some horses will question a lot of what you ask them to do just because that is the way they are. It does not always mean a gap in their training.
     
    05-30-2013, 08:18 PM
  #15
Weanling
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Originally Posted by ReiningGirl    
Now, this backing up when confused was typical, but once you would walk her forward, ask again, and she understood it, she didn't do the behavior.
I think this is apart of your problem. That backing thing can lead to rearing really easily. I do not like rearing horses, the best thing is forward motion, forward motion, forward motion. I would not let this horse back up ever. If I was working on backing I would only do a step or two just to keep her flexing correctly but for awhile I would keep her moving forward. Make her learn to work out her confusion going forward or at least standing still. Teaching your horse to move into issues is way better than having them back away from a problem.
     
    05-30-2013, 08:56 PM
  #16
Yearling
The egg trick is HILARIOUS. I won't go as far as effective, but I have seen it done once. The look on the horse's face was wth?!
I don't know if it accomplished anything but it sure was funny to watch.
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    05-30-2013, 09:15 PM
  #17
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Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
I would so love to see the old egg trick being done, never seen it, and I know for sure that I would not have the ability to juggle an egg and deal with a pissy rank rearing horse.

I seriously question if a horse does make the connection that an egg trickling down is meant to feel like he is bleeding, I think that a good rap with a whip would be just as affective, if not as messy.

Lol I like the way you worded this! Told ya id learn ya good.

In an english saddle id immagine it would be a bit tricky if the horse was actin out other than backin- but a rear I can handle one handed well.. I break horses western not english-- I used to ride a palomino paso fino 'sonny' that I trained to rear on purpose as a trick (done it bareback a lot too) -never had a problem with him doin it other than when asked.. I wouldnt say he was 'rank' but he was a very hyper horse.

I seen a guy once jump off a rearin horse and pull the horse over backwards by the reins and that horse never reared ever again- that also works but don't condone it for a greenie rider.. or anyone! Except the guy that I saw do it, lol.
     
    05-30-2013, 11:59 PM
  #18
Trained
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Originally Posted by toto    
Lol I like the way you worded this! Told ya id learn ya good.
So funny, love the irony, congratulations
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    05-31-2013, 09:35 AM
  #19
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I do not care what anyone says - when you get a rearer like this there is no way that you can get an egg or water balloon from where ever you are carrying it and smash it over the horse's head!

This is another of Paul Williams videos of a rearing horse, again tell me how you could smash a horse like this on the head?


All he says is correct and he is a brilliant rider of problem horses - if a horse can flip on him then it is a bad one!
     
    05-31-2013, 09:50 AM
  #20
Weanling
The Video was interesting, in two ways. One the riders method seems to work I wouldn't deal with that horse in that way, but....That's me. Second, an more to the point, did anyone else notes how much backward motion that horse had while rearing!!! This is a great example of why I said rearing is a backwards motion problem, forward, forward, forward. If you are working with a horse that finds it can back out of issues your not too far from a rearing horse. Great Video.
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