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post #1 of 107 Old 08-22-2011, 01:24 PM Thread Starter
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Problem Trainer Needs HELP

Hi there everyone! I am in dire need of some helpful tips. I have a proud cut 5 year old Pacifino Mustang with some serious attitude issues. He was sent to a trainer for a month and while he got used to being saddled, everytime I rode him he would still try to get me off. He bucks and kicks, and after a full day of just ground work will act like he is green again the next morning. My biggest problem lies in the fact that I myself am not experienced enough myself to know what is going to work for him. I have only ever worked with well trained horses that needed to be rode after a long winter or just werent getting much attention and needed refreshers. My biggest problem is letting him back out to pasture after a days ground work. He bucks and kicks out the gate almost hitting me. I've tried to calmly walk him through but he just rears and flails around. Any helpful tips would be appreciated!! Thanks!
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post #2 of 107 Old 08-22-2011, 02:14 PM
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Get a trainer or get rid of the horse. Your in a very dangerous situation
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post #3 of 107 Old 08-22-2011, 03:19 PM
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Having been around horses of this description, I can tell you that they can be very unpredictable and downright dangerous. If you are not willing to do the surgery necessary to remove the remaining hormone producing tissue, I would consider possibly putting the horse down. There is often no way to make these horses safe enough, IMO.
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I could never put him down. He is truly a good horse and he has amazing potential. I can't afford a trainer and I do know enough to keep myself at a safeish distance. Putting him down is NOT an option.
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Get to the gate, open it only enough for him to go through-(you stay outside), send him through & turn him around to face you. Close the gate as much as possible, then reach through & release him.
If he rears or acts like a nut keep pulling him back to the gate but try to stay of of the same area he is in. I'd suggest a long rope to start.
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I could never put him down. He is truly a good horse and he has amazing potential. I can't afford a trainer and I do know enough to keep myself at a safeish distance. Putting him down is NOT an option.
Then get the surgery or sell the horse. Your not doing you or the horse ANY favors by letting him get away with that behavior. Your putting yourself and the horse at risk by not getting medical and professional training help. If you can't afford to do what is necessary to keep you and the horse safe then you shouldnt have it.
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I don't think putting the horse down is even an ohkay suggestion. That's ridiculous, telling her to sell him would be a better suggestion. How do you even know that him bein proud cut is the reason?

Me personally, just working on what you said is his biggest problem in your opinion, I'd walk him thru a gate 200 times- & every time he kicked I'd swat his legs with a dressage whip. When he listens, make him turn, face you, & stand before you even THINK of unclipping him. That's where I'd start. He needs to respect you first, before anything else.
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I have reposted this article on so-called "Proud cut" horses more than once, and I will again give credit to bubba13 who posted it first.

http://www.cvmbs.colostate.edu/bms/e...dcut_apr09.pdf
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Thank you OHGunner and Natsha. I will try both of those ideas out and see how it goes.
And I do have him for sale but don't want him to get more raunchy just sitting and waiting for someone to buy him. I would rather keep working with him until he is sold to someone more knowledgable than I.
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I have reposted this article on so-called "Proud cut" horses more than once, and I will again give credit to bubba13 who posted it first.

http://www.cvmbs.colostate.edu/bms/e...dcut_apr09.pdf
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A horse that is a danger to itself as well as others is useless and will most likely end up put down or at slaughter anyways
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