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  • Retained epididymus gelding testosterone

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    08-22-2011, 05:55 PM
  #11
Foal
Oh yeah and as for him being proud cut... I don't know for sure that is the reason. Unfortanatley I don't know very much about him as he was sold with the farm I now live on. What I do know is he was treated like a dog, then sold to a trainer who didnt have time for him and then sold to the farm where I live.
     
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    08-22-2011, 05:56 PM
  #12
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By your own admission, the biggest problem is that you're not experienced enough to handle the situation. And I agree with you! A more experienced person to deal with him is definitelty in order, whether you have a friend or have to pay a trainer. I also agree putting him down isn't an option. If you truly can't hire a trainer and /or have more surgery on the fella, then the next best thing is to arm yourself with knowledge. I like the Clinton Anderson DVDs on gaining respect. Of course, they're expensive too but you can rent them at a fraction of the cost. The only DVD rental companies that I know of presently is giddyupflix.com. Above all be safe, don't overextend yourself and realize if/and/or when the situation calls for you to throw in the towel! Good luck.
     
    08-22-2011, 05:56 PM
  #13
Green Broke
Sorry it isn't working! I'll try to work it out later.

But the general point of the article:
There is no such thing as a proud cut gelding in reference to continued testosterone cause by retained epidiymis. This has been confirmed by many vets, including my personal vet.

The epididymis is not what produces testosterone, so therefore retained epididymis cannot cause a gelding to continue to produce testosterone.

-Off to find link for article-
ETA: I'm trying to find another article, and if I find the one I'm looking for I'll post it.

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...=0&SourceID=69

So, again, no such thing as proud cut. A retained testicle, sure, but not proud cut. The correct term for a retained testicle is cryptorchid, not proud cut.
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    08-22-2011, 05:58 PM
  #14
Foal
ANY horse can be trained. Its just a matter of finding a techique that works on this particular horse. That's why I am here. To find different techniques to try. Not to give up on him because he has attitude. That much I do know.
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    08-22-2011, 06:01 PM
  #15
Foal
Thank you all for the helpful tips. I hope to work out the kinks and give Shooter the best chance at a good life. I am a horse lover and fully believe that arming myself with knowledge is the best step to take. Thank you!
     
    08-22-2011, 06:02 PM
  #16
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by NewbeeTrainer    
ANY horse can be trained. Its just a matter of finding a techique that works on this particular horse. That's why I am here. To find different techniques to try. Not to give up on him because he has attitude. That much I do know.
Very noble of you, but you need to help yourself before you can help this horse. You need a trainer who knows what they are doing so they can teach you and help you teach him.

There are few horses cannot be trained that are just flat out dangerous and mentally are not stable. Im not saying that's the case with this horse.
     
    08-22-2011, 06:03 PM
  #17
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Keep us posted and show us some photos!!
     
    08-22-2011, 06:06 PM
  #18
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Originally Posted by Sunny    
I have reposted this article on so-called "Proud cut" horses more than once, and I will again give credit to bubba13 who posted it first.

http://www.cvmbs.colostate.edu/bms/e...dcut_apr09.pdf
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This says 'Page cannot be found',..., I don't think its just me, is it??
Somebody else try the link please
     
    08-22-2011, 06:07 PM
  #19
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by WhoaNow    
This says 'Page cannot be found',..., I don't think its just me, is it??
Somebody else try the link please
No, it isn't just you. I don't know what went wrong, but I'm trying to fix it.

Let's try this.....

http://www.cvmbs.colostate.edu/bms/e...dcut_apr09.pdf

I'm still having issues, but if you reallllly want to read it you can just google "colostate cvmbs proud cut" and it will likely be one of the first few links. It is a PDF.
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    08-22-2011, 06:08 PM
  #20
Foal
I tried the link as well and got the same error code. I posted some pics on my profile of my guy and will post and update as goes the progress!
     

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