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        09-17-2011, 02:55 PM
      #11
    Showing
    If he was afraid of the saddle he'd be throwing fits even when place on his back. He's learned how to get out of getting saddled. Use the lightest saddle you can (for your sake, not his). Hold your lead in your left hand giving him enough lead that you can use your hand to saddle him. Line yourself up in the saddle area and just start to lift it. If he moves away you have hold of his head so his back end will have to make larger circles. Remain in the saddle area and just follow him. I'd be surprised if he completes a circle because the way he is moving is tiring for him. Because you are walking forward, it's easy for you. When he stops, saddle him, cinch him, walk him around and remove it. Take a break if you wish then do this again. Do the same with mounting. Your lead rope will be the same as for saddling. Start by putting your foot in the stirrup. If he moves, again follow him and place your foot again. If he stands, then mount only until you are standing in the one stirrup and leaning a little over the saddle, then dismount. And repeat. Now do the other side. If your post is out in the open, have your lunge whip handy and slide his lead rope thro the ring. Take a good hold of the far end so that you are standing at about 45* from him. When he starts to pull back, hold the lead hard and wave the lunge whip near his hip. He may need a little tap but get him moving his butt. If he continues to pull move him faster, get those hind feet busy. As soon as he relaxes his pull, then you quickly relax your hold. In doing this he is learning that he can either stand still and relax or work his butt off.
         
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        09-17-2011, 04:53 PM
      #12
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Spirit11    
    Ok so yesterday me and my friend (his owner) took him out to work on some ground work. Weve kept him up in the area (the flat pasture we use for training or let the little kids ride in) by himself for the last few days. At first he threw a fit, charging the fence line, running circles, tossing his head and bucking around, but once he realized no one was paying attention he calmed down. We put my mare Sprinkles (no, I didn't name her lol) up with him, one because were doing some serious riding to get in shape for the big ride a its easier if I don't have to call her up from the fields, and two because Vegas was calmed down and we felt bad for him alone lol.

    He was actually pretty easy to catch, and it turns out he halters and leads really nice. My friend told me she actually used to show him in halter so he has really good manners as long as you don't tie him. After working on his halter manners for a bit. We looped his lead around the cemented hitching posts they have, and every time he freaked and pulled we'd loosen the tention, then slowly pull him back towards the post. We did that for a while but didnt want to rush anything.

    After that we went for a bareback ride with the kids, me riding Sprinkles with a niece in front and a nephew in back lol, and my friend leading Vegas with two of her nephews on him. Vegas is actually a super sweet boy and stood for an hour letting the kids braid his mane and pull burrs out of his tail. It was super cute to watch.

    I think I might have worried too much about working with him. Granted we havent worked on trying to saddle him yet, but I think it might be more of a fear issue then a manners issue. It might just be a matter of figuring out where the fear stems from.

    Sounds like a pretty good day to me. If you want to find out if he is afraid of the saddle or not, then sack him out (and I mean not only the saddle, but a whip, plastic bag, rug, saddle pad, and saddle). That will tell you what areas he is more nervous about (if you don't know what sacking out means, just let me know and I'll explain what I mean) or if he is just being stubborn. I'd rather my horse be so bored with being saddled that they fall asleep than upset and moving about.
         
        09-19-2011, 06:23 PM
      #13
    Foal
    Using a rope halter and a lead with no hardware is very useful for teaching horses to tie. You can purchase rope halters with leads already on them. The reason for no hardware is because it always breaks eventually. I teach all of my horses to tie this way. Seems once they start breaking things they only learn if they pull hard enough, they will get "untied". Rope halters won't break. If you choose to go this route, be sure to select a rope halter that is made of a thinner rope. Remember, the thicker the rope, the easier and more comfortable it is for the horse lean/pull on it. The thinner it is, the more uncomfortable it is for the horse to lean/pull.
         

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