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post #11 of 24 Old 08-20-2013, 08:24 PM
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But when were the LAST time his teeth were done? They NEED to be done every year...and I prefer an actual dentist because their schooling on teeth is longer than a vet's.
I disagree with this. I have 2 horses, 11 and 12, and they have never had their teeth done. No complications, not discomfort, no problems.

And I Another horse went 12 years without having teeth done. Even then, they were not bad at all. I have a 6 year old that's had her teeth done twice in 1 year. So...It all depends on the horse.
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I disagree with this. I have 2 horses, 11 and 12, and they have never had their teeth done. No complications, not discomfort, no problems.

And I Another horse went 12 years without having teeth done. Even then, they were not bad at all. I have a 6 year old that's had her teeth done twice in 1 year. So...It all depends on the horse.
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Have they been checked yearly to see that they don't need floating?
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So I recently bought a twisted full cheek snaffle and he will not open his mouth to save his life anymore.
No offense, but I wouldn't open either. Using harsher bit to substitute training is NEVER an answer. In fact in your case it clearly made the problem worse.

If the pain and teeth were ruled out (as it sounds) I'd 1) try bitless (some horses only ride in bitless successfully for whatever reason) and 2) I'd talk to the good trainer to see what he/she has to say.
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But when were the LAST time his teeth were done? They NEED to be done every year...and I prefer an actual dentist because their schooling on teeth is longer than a vet's.
She said in her 2nd or 3rd post that vet just checked the horse including the teeth. So based on the statement pain was ruled out.

BTW, there are vets out there who specialized in teeth too. I used one for while myself...

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Have they been checked yearly to see that they don't need floating?
My vet checks yearly with spring shots. She has excessive training in equine dentistry.
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She said in her 2nd or 3rd post that vet just checked the horse including the teeth. So based on the statement pain was ruled out.

BTW, there are vets out there who specialized in teeth too. I used one for while myself...
Yes, but it is impossible to tell what the back teeth are like without a speculum. I've had a vet tell me "oh his teeth are fine" when actually the back molars weren't even touching. No word of a lie. Vet just stuck his hand up as far sait could go and said "he's fine." I got a dentist out not long after who said his mouth was a mess (not conformationally, but the teeth needed a lot of work) and he'd likely never had a float done. Poor dude's back teeth on one side weren't touching. I'm ever glad I trusted my gut on that one.
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Does she open their mouths with a speculum and really check, or just run her fingers along and try to get a feel? I find it extremely hard to believe that two of your horses don't need dental work. I've yet to see one horse not need at least a few sharp points removed yearly.
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Speculum is included in the check. Every year. Flashlight on top of head, mouth wide open. 3 Of my horses just stand there. Then there's my six year old...she requires sedation.
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Yes, but it is impossible to tell what the back teeth are like without a speculum. I've had a vet tell me "oh his teeth are fine" when actually the back molars weren't even touching. No word of a lie. Vet just stuck his hand up as far sait could go and said "he's fine." I got a dentist out not long after who said his mouth was a mess (not conformationally, but the teeth needed a lot of work) and he'd likely never had a float done. Poor dude's back teeth on one side weren't touching. I'm ever glad I trusted my gut on that one.
Good point about the correct check. Mine are floated every year (I've never had a vet or dentist to tell me "they are fine" I guess, I'm not that lucky).
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You need to get over the "horse is really sweet" mindset. Horse is "sweet" because it suits it at that particular moment to do what is being asked. If it doesn't suit horse? Then you will see the real horse.

Which is what is happening here.

I would say most of this is you. Horse has figured out you don't know what you are doing, how to do it, and can't make horse behave in any way.

You may have caused the bit issues because you banged teeth, or drug bridle through eyes, or hurt ears? Or bridle may not fit period, browband too small, too small period, or bit is.

But your best and safest route is to find someone and take lessons.
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