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    05-24-2011, 07:51 PM
  #1
Foal
Question Problems in the roundpen

I recently bought a 6yr old bay roan gelding.. He's a really sweet guy and I've been working with him when I can on things like flexing, neck reining, backing, and slowing his trot (its really fast when I don't hold him back). I don't know how he was trained (probably the wrong way), so I've pretty much just gone back to the basics to make sure he's got a good understanding of the ground work and ground manners before I really get too much into the riding stuff. So the other day I put him on a lounge line and cued him to get out and walk on the line. He had no idea what I was asking him to do.. just kept spinning his butt around and facing me. This is when I realized he'd never been on a lounge line before, so I figured I'd better put him in the round pen and get him going. So to the round pen we go. I walked him in, let him loose, and cued him to walk-on with the lounge whip. Nothing. So, I cracked the whip a little harder... nothing. I even tried tapping his rear end and ankles with the whip, but nothing I did phased him at all. He had his feet planted and he meant he wasn't going to move! Haha. I even tried pushing on him and walking him around in a few circles before turning him loose. He just doesn't get it! Help please? How can I get him to understand what I want him to do? I was thinking about getting on him and having a friend hold the lounge line on him while I ride around the round pen. Will this work?
     
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    05-24-2011, 10:07 PM
  #2
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Dont get mad at him, he is confused and doesnt know what you are asking. You could put his halter on and a lead rope and have one person in the middle with the whip and one person holding him (If it was my horse I would be holding him) So start walking around the pen with him. When you think he has got it, like he acts like he knows he is supposed to walk in mindless circles around someone holding a whip, then, take off his lead rope and try doing it without anyone walking beside him. If he still refuses to go keep having a friend walk him around or you walk him around your self. But always when you change gaits make sure the person in the middle gives the cue instead of just numblessly standing their.

I taught my horse how to lunge by myself, how? Well, first off having your horse show his butt to you even if he doesnt know how to lunge is disrespect in its finest forms and when he does this you need to correct it immidiatly. I don't care whether he knows how to lunge or not, its still disrespect.

Okay so I taught my horse how to lunge on a long lead rope, maybe about 6-8 feet, that way you have more control over what they are doing. Start off by standing in the middle holding the whip and click to him or say "Walk". Point your one hand holding the lead rope in the direction you would like him to go and kinda tug at it, pulling in the direction and pointing. If he still refuses to go give a slap on the ground behind him with the whip and if he still isnt going anywhere slap the ground harder, getting closer to his hindquarters. (I wouldnt recommend hitting him on his butt) So what the scene should look like is you standing firmly in the middle of the pen pointing and tugging (not yanking but gently tugging to have him sense that you are tugging him in a direction) in the direction you would like him to go while smacking the ground behind his hindquarters. When he starts to move, whether it be one step or ten steps reward him highly for this and restart the process.

When he first starts off he wont walk long before he stops but don't make him keep walking, when he FIRST starts off its its okay to stop. As he gets better at starting off on the lunge line don't let him stop. My horse can now watch me point in the direction I want him to go and start off walking that way. When I step in front of his girth he immidiatly skids to a stop and whirls to the opposite direction, following my pointed finger to the direction he needs to go. When I step in front of his girth and say "Whoa" He skids to a stop. When I say "Trot" He will take off trotting on voice command only. Its farely easy to teach some horses how to lunge but not all methods work for the same people and horses. So maybe this wont work out for you and your gelding. But for my horse, well, it went smoothely (: It will take time, AND patience. Don't give up. Soon he will be excellent at lunging (: When he gets better you wont need a lead rope. And now my horse lunges without a whip, he prefers it that way so maybe once your horse learns how to lunge then take away the whip? With one of my horses I NEED the whip so like I said, depends on the horse and trainer. Sorry this turned out to be so long!
     
    05-24-2011, 10:28 PM
  #3
Foal
Thanks! I've tried pretty much everything.. I know how to correctly lounge a horse that knows how to do it. Haha. The palomino I used to have would do everything you said your horse does.. halt when I stepped in front of his girth, go in the direction I pointed, respond to voice commands.. I didn't need a whip with him either. My new horse, though, is so confused with the whole thing and I think he may be a little lazy too. I tried the long lead rope thing last week. He doesn't understand why I want him to run away from me in a circle. I walk him on the lead line into an open area, come to a stop, then I turn to him, hold the arm with the rope out in the direction I want him to go, and I use the whip behind him on the ground. He doesn't turn his butt TOWARDS me.. he spins his butt away from me and keeps his head near me. So he's moving his back end around and around while keeping his head facing me. I've tried putting pressure on him at the shoulder to get him to move his front out as well as his rear end (by pressure, I mean cracking the whip or the end of the lead line, not actually touching him) but he doesn't yield to it at all. When I have him loose in the round pen he just does as he pleases whether it be graze on the grass sticking through the bottom of the fence or stand still and ignore me. Haha. I literally have to pull on his halter to make him walk. I can click, kiss, whistle, crack the whip.. nothing phases him. He doesn't even flinch. I'm going to try leading him and riding him with someone else in the middle of the round pen with a whip.. I hope it helps.
     
    05-24-2011, 10:55 PM
  #4
Started
Ohh sorry, I didnt read carefully enough how you said he turns TOWARD you... not away xD Okay this sounds fun... My horse did the EXACT same thing. He would stand their staring at me as if I was from a different planet. So, I did the only that popped into my head when he would stand their staring at me: if I wanted him to go left for instance I would gently curl the whip around his right anke, and most of the time he would get peeved, either by taking off running or by rearing but I kept doing this until he just... got it and didnt give me any trouble. I would not necessarily recommend this and I know the people on here arent going to like this but hey, one thing may work on one horse and not another horse. And I was NOT abusing him or even whipping him. Just curling the whip around his ankle. Sometimes, I did it a little harder trying to get my point across but never did I whip him or abuse him. I firmly believe EVERY horse at times needs a firm hand! Not ABUSE but a firm hand. Maybe try this but maybe don't...
     
    05-24-2011, 11:33 PM
  #5
Foal
That sounds like a great idea. I'll definitely try that if having a friend help me doesn't work.. thanks. :]
     
    05-25-2011, 04:41 PM
  #6
Started
Your welcome. Tell me how it goes!
     

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