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    04-05-2011, 03:44 PM
When you were getting off and he threw you it would be my guess that you didn't get up and down enough for him to come to a positive conclusion - I.e. You won't kill him. You need to do this a hundred times on both sides over a couple of weeks. I wouldn't be in a big hurry to have him move once you're on. Take your time and just sit there and keep reminding him that you are on him. They sometimes forget someone is on and then they get spooked when suddenly you appear in their vision.

The one thing that I find useful is getting one of those big balls and teaching him to stand still while you bounce it on the ground and then on him and then put it up on him and then get him to move around with it on him.

Hope that helps and good luck.
Yeah that probably was the issue. I have been doing a lot of getting on and off on both sides ever since I was thrown. Sometimes I'll jump or stomp my feet and I've done it so much that he just takes a nap the whole time. Lol

That's a great idea with the ball! I've never thought of that before. I'm going to have to try that!

We're going to have to work on disengaging.
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    04-05-2011, 03:47 PM
Good. Now when you're getting up or down you have to wait until they are relaxed. That is, if you're getting down and he starts to move then just stay where you are and flex his head towards your knee until he relaxes and then continue getting down. You may be doing this already but I thought I would add it.
    04-05-2011, 08:32 PM
TLO, I disagree that a horse needs to see you get up and down a hundred times to be sure you aren't going to hurt them - trainers would be out of business very quickly if they had to do that.
To the OP, please get a trainer to help you, or get a broke horse. I really worry for your safety - unless you know what you're doing or have someone to assist you (who knows what they're doing) you or the horse are liable to get hurt.
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    04-05-2011, 08:58 PM
JDI she already said that she's not getting a trainer. I think that getting up and down a lot is beneficial. Whether or not someone does or does not is a personal decision. What I know is if you do something a lot over a period of time then it becomes accepted providing there is a positive memory. So you think it's better if a horse has not accepted mounting before you continue. Hmmm.

It is really difficult to give advice with words - I admit I am not the best at it but then again I don't see how anyone could be really good at it. But this advice is not going to harm and if it does anything it will make the horse more safe to mount. I think most trainers are not very good anyway so what they do means nothing to me.
    04-05-2011, 09:15 PM
Then I've said all I can say. I won't be involved in someone getting hurt for lack of qualified help. I wish the OP all the best. Horseback riding is inherently dangerous. Even more so the less both you and the horse know.
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    04-05-2011, 09:21 PM
You know loads of people get hurt with horses all the time regardless of their experience. I've known plenty of people who claim to be professionals getting hurt over the years. In just the last two years, one guy broke his leg and he is rated as one of the best pros in the working cow competitions and another woman who starts many horses every year. Actually her story is her own "well trained" horse flipped over onto her ripping some knee off. She is one of those incompetent trainers that I refer to. But I do understand your position JDI.
    04-05-2011, 09:27 PM
Sure, but why stack the odds? That's like saying "people die in car accidents all the time, so why bother putting my seatbelt on?" or, rather "people get hurt in cars all the time, so why bother learning to drive from someone with experience, or why take lessons?"
Makes no sense to me.
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    04-05-2011, 09:32 PM
I don't think that I'm saying that at all. I don't think that hiring someone guarantees anything I.e. Someone may still get hurt. In fact, I know a few racing stable owners who won't hire anybody to start horses because all these trainers do not carry insurance (disability) and they will sue you if they get hurt. I respect that you do care if someone gets hurt I don't want anyone getting hurt - of course not. I don't want you to get hurt either - be careful
    04-05-2011, 09:35 PM
Thats why I rode under a trainer for many, many years, and started my first few horses under guidance. Minimized the risk. I still got hurt, but chances are excellent I would have been injured worse without having the training I received.
Minimizing risk. You don't start in the deep end of the pool, you learn to swim first.
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    04-05-2011, 09:41 PM
Well I rode with other people too but I started my first horse when I was about 13. We didn't do things the way people do now in arenas. We started them out on the trails and roads. But maybe some people are different and it's not like this person doesn't know how to ride. But what can you do if she is not going to hire someone to help. You cannot control what other people do.

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