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    01-12-2012, 11:42 AM
project horse

My friend has a 7 year old cob x mare with a few issues.
She has put her up for sale due to lack of confidence with this horse but as a last resort she has asked me to help. A little info & background on the horse -

She was used as a brood mare up until a year or so ago and wasnt backed or 'broken' until then. She can also be driven but her current owner hasnt done that with her. She's a sweet mare but can be very pushy so she needs a lot of groundwork. My friend recently sent her away to be completely restarted & has now established walk & trot under saddle but when asked to canter she will rear. She has had a 5* vet check and there a no physical problems. Her teeth where floated 7 weeks ago & her saddle was professionally fitted so no issues there. She is also very "barn sour" for lack of better way to put it, she will hack alone but it gets to a point where she decides no more and will rear. She has also reared out on roads when a lorry tried to pass by. The rears arent high & not enough to get anyone off but it has knocked my friends confidence a lot.

Id like some advice on how to help with this mare :)
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    01-12-2012, 01:32 PM
Honestly, with a rear, it depends on the severity.

If a horse, like mine for example, does a small rear, he gets his butt kicked. Not literally (I don't beat him) but he is made to MOVE his feet. So lets say I ask for a trot, and he rears on me. I will whip his head around til he's kissing his hip, make him move his hind quarters over, do little circles and then ask again for a trot, stronger this time, and usually that's when I do more (bigger) circles, at the trot. That usually fixes the little crapper He hasn't reared on my in quite a while now.

However, I will note that I am talking about a small baulking rear, not a black stallion flip over and kill yourself rear.
    01-12-2012, 02:12 PM
Her owner said she usually only does tiny rears like 1ft off the ground & I usually use the same method for rears, tight circles & make them move then ask again. I've only seen her do one serious rear which was when she was asked to canter for the first time. But since she's been to a trainer im hoping she's improved a bit with that. We'll soon find out on sunday when I go to ride her anyway haha. Heres some pictures :) ignore the big ol' belly. That was not long after she had her foal, I think she's lost weight since then haha
    01-12-2012, 02:17 PM
Wow she's beautiful! I love tri-colored horses, the dark bay on the white is stunning :)
    01-12-2012, 02:22 PM
She is beautiful & I can see her being a lovely mare if she wasnt so stubborn! Lol
Also, I think I remember being told she has trotter in her which is why explodes when you ask her to canter. Any advice on teaching a trotter to canter? Lol she wont canter on the lunge either, she'll do one stride then go back to trotting really fast
    01-12-2012, 02:37 PM
She's gorgeous. In my opinion it sounds like she has figured out that by rearing she gets out of work and gets her own way? If your friend can, she wants to try and get her going forward, if she has impulsion behind her, she won't be able to go up. If the mares starts napping, I'd recommend to get her going in small circles and then push her forward. She needs to learn that the rearing isn't going to let her get her own way. Hope this helps, but I'm sure there will be plenty of more indepth and helpful comments coming your way :)
    01-12-2012, 02:49 PM
Yeah, I think she's been used to getting away with it without any sort of punishment, when they first got her she wouldnt even stand still while she was tied to be groomed. Used to spin round, bounce about & rear and she never got corrected for it. That will all be changing now im in charge hahaha
    01-12-2012, 08:30 PM
Well when my mare had trouble cantering, we built up her top line, and started teaching her collection at the trot. This would give her the proper muscles to hold a canter. I can show you the video of what we did to help her. I would recommend only doing this if you know how to use the tools.

I believe these are called draw or side reins. They help teach the proper headset, and when used correctly, help with collection. That would be where I would start. My mare always broke her canter to trot too. She was better after this.

    01-12-2012, 09:06 PM
Ive never used side reins so I wont attempt that, but according to the trainer she has been taught a correct head carriage so we'll have to wait until sunday to find out if that's true lol I've never actually ridden this mare before & only seen her ridden a couple of times so I think i'll just spend some time on groundwork at first just to find out her quirks & figure out the signs that she's about to play up lol
    01-14-2012, 03:27 PM
Good luck!!! She sounds like alot of work. My friend just got a horse and he is kind of crazy and if you ask him to stop he would rear a little and he wold get corrected. He also holds his head heigh so she tried a tie-down and he reared again and she never did the tie-down agian. But she has dona alot of groundwork and re-did the basic's of his training and he has improved a lot!

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