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    05-21-2011, 09:03 PM
Once they learn it wont break if they pull its no fun anymore, haha
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    05-22-2011, 02:52 PM
I appreciate the advice everyone.

That said the problem is a little deeper than that. It's not actually a tying issue. This week I didn't tie her, I had a friend hold her while I tacked up. She still went up/pulled back. My friend gave her slack on the rope and the mare went down. I'm lucky she didn't injure herself. I don't really understand. Two vets, a saddle fitter and two instructors say there's nothing wrong with her back or her tack. Sometimes she pulls WHILE the saddle is being put on, sometimes when it is already on, and sometimes when it hasn't even been brought out of the house yet. Oh and for several weeks she doesn't pull at all. She also goes back when I'm mounting, but only sometimes.

At the moment I'm just making her work HARD whenever she does it, but I'm a bit perplexed. It's a really new thing and I have NO idea what brought it on

So yeah, tying isn't actually the key issue really.

Anymore ideas?
    05-22-2011, 04:21 PM
Has she tried backing since she fell?

Working her hard is the first thing I would recommend, but since you've already done that, have you actually made her back when she does that? Every once in awhile a horse will back away from me because the don't want me mounting, tying them, or whatever and I make them back the whole length of the arena if necessary. Usually I have a whip and wave them in front of their chest. It turns a bad habit into a submissive workout.

She sounds like she may not responding to pressure the way she should either.
    05-22-2011, 06:22 PM
She hasn't really had a chance yet...the time she went down was only yesterday and the time I planned to work with her today was spent sitting in my broken down car waiting for a recovery van to come rescue me :(
I'm kinda hoping that the fact that she went down will have put her off. I was really worried because she didn't get straight up, but amazingly no cuts and she was sound.

Anyway in that instance I just walked her up and down because I was worried she might be injured. When it turned out she was sound I lunged her. I'd been saddling her when she went back, so I took her saddle off and put it back on again. She stood fine.
When I was trying to mount she went back once. I backed her up across the drive and then made her circle. I then stood her and mounted and she stood fine.
    05-22-2011, 06:30 PM
I think maybe her falling will kind of dissuade her from doing it again.

I would keep working her when she does that. Sounds like you're doing it right to me.
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    05-23-2011, 07:36 AM
Yeah, I really hope so. She didn't go down really bad, but she did crash into a couple things before she fell so that may have had an impact on her too. She'd kinda stumbled before but this was the first time she properly went down. It wasn't like falling back from a rear, she just kinda went down onto her butt, but hopefully that ill be enough. I'm going to try again at the back end of this week. I'll have someone hold her again, and if that goes well we'll see if she'll tie. I would do it sooner, but there's no one around until wednesday, and even if i'm the only one that works with her I like to have other people nearby. It's dangerous behaviour and extra hands are always help in the case of an emergency.
    05-23-2011, 10:31 AM
Tie her to something very secure and let her figure it out herself or teach her to give to pressure yourself by putting whatever pressure on her that makes her pull back and keeping it the same untill she lowers her head and comes forward (vs throwing head up and running back) then releasing.

Just working her will not work because she thinks she's doing the right thing by pulling back, and the fact that the twine has broken in the past confirmed that for her.

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