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    07-22-2008, 09:04 AM
  #1
Weanling
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Sonny and I had a very nice ride yesterday evening that is until I began to lead him out of the arena-i reached over to hit the light switch and he did one of those "trained movie horse " nudges-with his nose right in the middle of my back. He is 1/2 Percheron and very strong and almost sent me flying. I smacked his nose-normally I don't hit-i do the little flick thing-well he got a smack-the look on his face made me feel bad but he just cannot push me around-he is too big and I am too little! Anyone have a better suggestion than smacking him? I have stopped hand feeding entirely while we work-he gets his treat when he is done and back in the stall . He was very disrespectful and pushy when I hand fed.
I hate the whole idea of hitting but this one just slipped off my hand
     
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    07-22-2008, 01:16 PM
  #2
Weanling
Well I wouldn't feel too guilty about the smack now. It's done. I doubt you scarred him for life this once. Maybe it was enough of a suprise to discourage him next time.

Anyhoo, maybe make a more concentrated effort to not turn your back to him if you're unprepared (which is kind of a dumb thing to say, eh? LOL be prepared when you aren't prepared? :roll: )
Just anticipate it, and even back him up out of your space before you reach for the light. If he's crowding you, back him up. Seems to remind them to get out of your bubble. Just one tip, I'm sure there will be plenty more added to this.
     
    07-22-2008, 01:40 PM
  #3
Foal
For one week, carry a dressage whip around with you. Lead him EVERYWHERE, around the barn, around the ring, anywhere you can. The second he gets within your "hula hoop" of space, give him a slight whack on the chest and back him up, I mean back him up quick and immediately. Believe me, you are not hurting him. Think of what his pasture mates do to each other when they get too close... a little whack from little you and a little stick won't hurt, but it will make him think about doing that again. And you will be letting him know that he cannot, ever invade your space until you ask him in. If he's pushy now, he'll be 1,000 times pushy in 6 months if you keep let him being that way. You also have to be consistant. Dont' let him "gently nudge" you one minute, you think its cute and ignore it... then nudge you again later and you whack him. Be consistant and do not let him in your space until asked. It may seem harsh now, but it sure beats getting run over by a 1,500 pound horse.

Some folks who think its cute, and do not correct the horse from the start - end up with a big horse that is very pushy and no one wants. The poor animal gets sold around, and eventually to auction because his first owner never taught him manners. Its not the horses fault, he just needs to be taught to be polite, just like we do!
     
    07-22-2008, 01:46 PM
  #4
Weanling
Thanks to you both-no it isnt cute to be pushed, I don't even let him rub which he is want to do after a ride-he is so big-he needs to like you say =stay out of my space unless I call you in-
Your ideas will help me with halter showing next month too-we're not going to do well if he is pushing me around@
     
    07-22-2008, 05:42 PM
  #5
Green Broke
If he's pushing you from behind then what I would do would donkey kick with your legs. Not really hard, but just to get his attention. That's what horses do to each other, and i'm sure he'd understand the message...

I'm not saying to kick the living daylights out of him. Honestly you wouldn't even have to touch him, if you just strike out and miss he should get the picture.

That's just my advice. If you like it great, if you don't like it so much that's ok too.
     
    07-23-2008, 04:04 AM
  #6
Weanling
Actually, mlk hit the nail on the head, so to speak.. The motion is often enough. Come at him like you're going to tear his head off. Make a big action of throwing the kick or raising your hand to hit...you don't have to make contact. The threat is nine times out of ten enough. Make him -think- you can hurt him. You don't actually have to. But remember, as fast as you flare up you need to cool down just as fast. If I have to discipline my horse, the next thing I do is usually hold his head and ask him softly why he made me do it, and that he knows better.
     
    07-23-2008, 09:45 AM
  #7
Trained
Twister has gotten pushy and it was our fault. Hand fed treats, hand full of grass here and there. The girls would let him rest his head on their chest while they rubbed both sides of his mane...etc.

I was leading him around the pen before the farrier arrived and he tried to bite my elbow. I heard the snap of his teeth and his lips grazed my elbow. I spun around and slapped him. I felt like a dog..it was over in a second and he knew why he got popped. That was a couple weeks ago. Since then I have lead him all over the property and made him mind. I have also stomped to make him move. The threat IS enough! He has snapped right back in line. I was able to lead him yesterday with just a lead rope over his poll.

Stand your ground and let him know what is and is not acceptable. You sound as if you have the right idea. Just keep at it!
     
    07-23-2008, 10:12 AM
  #8
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by Dumas'_Grrrl
Twister has gotten pushy and it was our fault. Hand fed treats, hand full of grass here and there. The girls would let him rest his head on their chest while they rubbed both sides of his mane...etc.

I was leading him around the pen before the farrier arrived and he tried to bite my elbow. I heard the snap of his teeth and his lips grazed my elbow. I spun around and slapped him. I felt like a dog..it was over in a second and he knew why he got popped. That was a couple weeks ago. Since then I have lead him all over the property and made him mind. I have also stomped to make him move. The threat IS enough! He has snapped right back in line. I was able to lead him yesterday with just a lead rope over his poll.

YOU SPOILED YOUR HORSE!!! YOU HORSE SPOILER! YOU ARE A SPOILER OF HORSES! HORSE SPOILER!

Teehee.... :P

Stand your ground and let him know what is and is not acceptable. You sound as if you have the right idea. Just keep at it!
     
    07-23-2008, 10:13 AM
  #9
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by farmpony84
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumas'_Grrrl
Twister has gotten pushy and it was our fault. Hand fed treats, hand full of grass here and there. The girls would let him rest his head on their chest while they rubbed both sides of his mane...etc.

I was leading him around the pen before the farrier arrived and he tried to bite my elbow. I heard the snap of his teeth and his lips grazed my elbow. I spun around and slapped him. I felt like a dog..it was over in a second and he knew why he got popped. That was a couple weeks ago. Since then I have lead him all over the property and made him mind. I have also stomped to make him move. The threat IS enough! He has snapped right back in line. I was able to lead him yesterday with just a lead rope over his poll.

Stand your ground and let him know what is and is not acceptable. You sound as if you have the right idea. Just keep at it!

YOU SPOILED YOUR HORSE!!! YOU HORSE SPOILER! YOU ARE A SPOILER OF HORSES! HORSE SPOILER!

Teehee.... :P
     
    07-23-2008, 12:18 PM
  #10
Weanling
You guys are so funny and I thank you so much for all the help-yes I am a horse spoiler!!!!!!!!!! Donna caught me right at the beginning of my lease with Sonny and told me do not treat him like Romeo-Sonny will push the crap out of you if you give him food-yup he did!!!! So like I said no food out of hand until he is in the stall and all work done-i will take your advise and try the kick-and I am using the whip handle to keep him out of my space while we walk in halter. He is just so cute-huge and cute-much cuter when he is minding and not on top of me!
     

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