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        03-23-2009, 07:14 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    In the mean time you could ride with a hackamore but I think that you really need to get your horse over this whole bit thing.

    Putting your arm over your horses head like this may help with how your horse keeps putting its head up into the air. I would use this in combination with putting your thumb in the corner of your horses mouth.
    I wouldnt reccomend just riding in a rope halter. You could try going here: Bit-Less Riding I know this lady personally. She makes everything by hand and its really quality stuff.
         
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        03-23-2009, 10:32 PM
      #12
    Weanling
    Ok so today when I went to the barn I had two goals. First one was working with getting him to lower his head with pressure on the poll... still working on that, he pulls his head away or walks away from me when I try.

    The second was working on the bit problem. Well I bought some molasses and a brush and put a little on the bit. Let him lick it the first time while his nose was through the nose band. The second time I did it same thing, he didn't want to put it in his mouth either. But the third and fourth time I got him to put the bit in his mouth (he started backing up and I just followed him around LOL) and I got the whole headstall on him. He's a little bit of a butt to take it off, I have to make him wait every time he wants to just take it off.

    But hey, SUCCESS FEELS GOOD!
         
        03-23-2009, 10:37 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Just a post script...

    I wanted to ride him SO BAD today!!! But I figured getting him to put the bit back in his mouth was work enough for him and he'd just finished eating a flake of hay and half a scoop of grain so I held back LOL
         
        03-24-2009, 07:39 PM
      #14
    Banned
    Haha, glad you have self control. It's hard training a horse... you want to ride SO bad... and their back is just inches away....

    ANYWAY

    I ride young horses bareback in the pasture with their halters/leads tied like reins. I've done it with a rope halter. It seems fine for the horse, just that I wouldn't reccomend it, because you have little control.

    But hey, just sitting on my horse while he grazes and walking him a few steps is still fun to me
         
        03-24-2009, 08:35 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Good for you!

    You asked about riding in a rope halter, I ride one of the horses in a jumping hackamore or jumping cavesson, he has a low pallete (sp) and goes very well in one. I use it for trail rides, lessons and jumping. Have never had any problems with steering, stopping or collection. It looks like this:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ngCavesson.jpg

    Here's another example:

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/41/86...db4604.jpg?v=0
         
        03-25-2009, 01:25 AM
      #16
    Foal
    My horse was exactly like this and it drove me insane but I fixed it. I first lunged her for a while tried putting in the bit if she didn't accept it lunge her trie again if she didn't accept it send her right back out. Also you can put ur thumb along the side of her mouth then slip it into where the bit rests and push up the horse will then open its mouth able to slip it in. Hope that helps.

    And congrats on finally getting the bit in :) my horse would sometimes take up to 3 hrs and after that I just forgot about riding putting the bit in was hard enough work lol.
         
        03-25-2009, 03:21 PM
      #17
    Showing
    Good stuff.
    Theresi absolutely nothing wrong with riding in a halter and getting your horse trained in a halter...
    HOWEVER
    I strongly urge you to work on the bitting thing; I always say and still maintain that a horse should be able to work well in a bit (unless the horse has had an injury rendering the bit harmful) and whatever you do above and beyond that is up to you.
    If you ever need to sell Wiski, potential buyers will be turned off the bitting problem.
         
        03-25-2009, 09:11 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    All very good points. Thankfully I've figured out how to get a bit in his mouth where he only struggles a little at first. That molasses thing worked very well actually.

    Hopefully I'll never have to sell Wiski. I surely hope that I can learn enough to get him tamed back down for me. Three years out in the pasture was apparently a lot for this particular horse. Though he knows how to be ridden, he would rather do anything it takes to be lazy I think.
         
        03-27-2009, 12:08 AM
      #19
    Showing
    It's good that you have found something that works pretty well. Am I mistaken or did you say that he is being ridden in a curb bit? Is he green broke? I would suggest first to get a regular snaffle to ride him in. Then after you get him bitted, let him out to graze or give him a couple of handfuls of grain with the bit in. Horses can become bit sour just like anything else; bit=work=bad. Do you bridle him over the rope halter? If not, you might try that because that gives you something to control his head with when he starts to throw his fit. Just be patient and keep working. He will get better with time.
         
        03-27-2009, 12:18 AM
      #20
    Weanling
    He's not green broke but he's been out to pasture for the last three years and just needs a refresher. I do have a snaffle on order and it should be here on the 30th of this month so I can ride him in somethilng a bit more gentle. Thanks for all the help with it!
         

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