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  • Is flipping a horse when it rears ok

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    03-17-2013, 12:25 AM
Originally Posted by Thrill Ride    
Please never ever flip a horse over when they rear.. Just don't. Its way to dangerous and usually creates 100 more problems
... I don't exactly feel the need to potentially kill myself or injure my horse. I have been educated on how to properly sit a rear.
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    03-17-2013, 12:54 AM
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I just want to say THANK YOU BornToRun for following the sensible advice and following the safest and most likely to suceed route! I agree with the cringing on rearing threads. When I was 14 I was given a mare that chronically reared because clearly my family cared very little about my safety and was told by my grandpa that flipping them was the way to go. I finally got a chance one day and pulled her over when I went to mount.

Did she ever rear again? Nope. Was I lucky to walk away with an intact saddle, horse and young bones? You bet your arse. Sometimes COMMON SENSE needs to rule over "Wa'll, it worked once before on ol' Bessie so clearly it's the best way!"

Kudos to you and best of luck on your progress.
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    03-17-2013, 09:15 AM
Something else you might try is setting a pan with some feed in it at the place she usually stops, before you take her for a walk. Now she has some incentive. Put it in the same place for three days (it takes 3 for the horse to figure it out) then move it farther away. She will start to look forward to finding the pan and getting her reward. When using a pan the horse lowers it's head which causes it to relax. She is not thinking "barn" at this time. When treats are hand fed it often occurs at waist height which doesn't get the horse lowering it's head. It can make a big difference.
    03-17-2013, 12:12 PM
She would go up whenever I put pressure on the reins because she didn't want to stop. I'm not sure if I have that many feed pans!
    03-18-2013, 02:10 AM
Ok I skipped alot honestly bc I didnt agree with alot, lol.. I don't like the egg or any kind of whacking on the head! Sorry! I'm not arguing I just don't like it. My gelding was a "rearer". I have heard of them working. I have even seen a horse go onto it's knees when a water balloon was smashed on her head. She stayed there for a few minutes.... I don't want my horse to think I'm hurting him. I want him to trust me. And I have also had a neighbor KILL his horse by flipping it over (this was almost 25yrs ago.). And that happened bc a horse falling on it's back ISNT graceful! He fell straight back and somehow broke his neck.

And it sounds like your having the EXACT problem I did! My boy was ALSO very concerned about leaving the herd! And this was while I was breaking him. He would try so hard to do what I asked that he'd overthink it, and after getting it wrong repeatedly, he'd get frustrated THEN would rear, THEN want to go back to his herd.

So what did I do? I started at groundwork away from the herd, and when he started flipping out and rearing to get back, I took him back to his herd! AND WORKED HIM THERE! Boy did he put up a fight.... for a few minutes... then he realized that going back to the herd DIDNT mean he was out of work. He had reared a few times doing it, but I stopped it from the ground BEFORE I got back on (mine was a flipper!). Then after he realized this I started again, and after a few minutes he GOT IT! And now it's been a year and no more flipping after that ONE day!

And by groundwork, at that time. He didnt get exactly what lunging was about. He would get so worked up and assume I wanted him to just run, and I had a hard time getting him to relax! So you may or may not have to do something different in the ways of groundwork. I'd start at the root of the rearing. And it sounds like you believe it's from being herd sour, so start at the herd!

GOOD LUCK! Don't WORRY! IT CAN BE DONE! I'm a novice horse trainer! My gelding was the second I have broke and I did it! So don't feel overwhelmed! :)
So glad your doesnt flip back! And just in case you havent make sure you know how to get off a horse that is getting ready to flip back. Just in case! Be safe! And best wishes!
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    03-18-2013, 02:33 AM
Oh and I was always told a horse that bucks DOES NOT want to move forward, and horse that rears WANTS TO GO! So that's why she rears when you pull on the rein, lol. Which I'm sure you already know. I just like that info, lol....

Oh and the horse that flipped and broke his neck happened 15yrs ago! Not 25! I mis-typed.
    03-18-2013, 04:40 AM
I've been dealing with a rank little horse that does the same thing. Nothing worked and she was progressively getting worse and rearing higher. I will not tolerate rearing. Another trainer walked up and handed me a foot long piece of axe handle and when she went up, I smacked her right between the ears. She stood there for a minute then carried on, hasn't reared since. Would I do that to a fearful horse, and abused horse or a head shy horse? No. Would I do it to a spoiled brat horse that just wants to go back to the barn and injure me in the process? Oh he** yeah.

If that makes me awful then so be it. Each horse is completely different and should be handled accordingly. Very few horses I'd think whacking them would work, but in this particular case it did.

I hope everything works out with your horse soon!
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    03-18-2013, 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by BornToRun    
Let me just say it one more time, before anyone feels the need to suggest it again. I am getting into an apprenticeship with a certified trainer. I'm quite aware that there is no shame in admitting there is something I can't do on my own, I wouldn't be here, or seeking help from another person if that was not the case.
What is this trainer certified in?

Seriously, I would not own a horse that reared....period. It would be down the road for sure. Rearing is a serious problem and big time dangerous and it comes down to total LACK of correct training and a mindset problem in the horse itself. In other words, the horse has an unwilling mindset so it's reaction which is resistance....is to go up.
    03-18-2013, 08:51 PM
I was just going to come back on here, to let you know that I did consult a trainer before going any farther with his training when the rearing.... reared its ugly head, lol... But I don't think ALL rearing horses should be given up on.

No I wouldnt smack a horse in the head, but I would totally put him in an area where he'll do it himself, lol... And I have. We had a problem with a gelding here that would rear when the farrier did his front hooves. He is a spoiled brat!!! And so we put him in under one of those aluminum carports. And he reared up and whacked his head and it made a big boom sound, and he hasnt done it since, lol...
    03-18-2013, 09:24 PM
Rearing is resistance and lack of forward movement whether it be from not wanting to go forward or being held back from the rider to keep him from going forward. The cause will determine the course of action.
Rearing is no different than any other problem one might encounter, there is no one-size-fits-all answer, it depends on the situation.
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