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        04-13-2009, 10:02 PM
      #11
    Trained
    So as everyone said, he could be stretching. My horse stretches when we first start trotting. She would also try to evade the bit throughout the ride and I found that pushing her forward helped a lot, and definitely NOT correct with your reins AT ALL. It just gives them more to resist. I'd also look into the pain aspect, and you can always do the simple things yourself like checking the saddle fit, or running your fingers along his spine with firm pressure to see if it hurts.
         
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        04-14-2009, 12:59 PM
      #12
    Weanling
    Tie downs ARE NOT FOR HEADSETS!!!!! Their only purpose is, like New Heart said, for horses to lean on while competing in speed events, which helps them keep their balance. That is one of my biggest pet peeves, people who use tie downs because they think it'll help keep a horses head down or to help collect himself. If used improperly, tie downs can be very dangerous!
         
        04-14-2009, 07:47 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Thank you for all this help, you guys rock!!

    Here is where I am at now...

    My saddle fit shouldnt be a problem as I have a Skito Pad and treeless saddle that fits him great.

    When I bought him I was told he "isnt fond of bits" and they said I should use a hackamore... but I honestly don't want to use a hackamore. Been thinking about maybe a Dr Cooks Bitless?

    I think he is "rooting" because he is very lazy and doesnt want to be ridden. Its taken me quite a bit of ground work and saddle work to get him to move forward. Before this he would crowhop or turn in very tight circles or back up any time you gave him leg cues to move forward. Very lazy, very stubborn... even so, he's my boy, I love him and am willing to work with whatever the issues are.

    I have had the dentist out to check his teeth and he said they are good. He said he floated them shortly before I bought him last year. (He knew his previous owner). I have had him barefoot trimmed and the farrier said his feet look good.

    I havent been able to find a chiropractor on my little peninsula of Maryland. The closest one is several hours away in DE.... and wont come down here.

    He does stretch quite a bit in the field... so this could be part of it... rooting and/or stretching.

    I have started to give him more leg cues to go forward whenever he puts his head way down (he does this at a walk by the way... and uses his head being down to slow himself down to a stop) and let him stay on a loose rein while I do this so he doesnt resist the bit even more.

    I've been riding him a little while every night (except last night and tonight due to rain).... He seemed a little better Sunday night than he had during the week before though. So hopefully the making him work when he puts his head down helps.
         
        04-14-2009, 11:06 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    What kind of bit are you using on him? He may just not like it .

    I have a Nurtural No-Bit bitless that I use for trail riding. I LOVE it! I also have a treeless saddle (a bob marshall). I still use my bits for training, but I like using the bitless for trails and "fun" rides. Why use a bit if you don't have to?

    When you're working, try lifting the reins straight up when you cue with your legs. Keep lifting up until he brings his head up, then release your cues and praise him.
         
        04-15-2009, 05:58 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    When I bought him they were using a tom thumb on him. I hate those bits. They said he didnt like it and I should use a hackamore.

    I currently use a full cheek snaffle with copper mouth piece.
         
        04-16-2009, 12:06 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    You might try a french link full cheek, or other similar 3-piece (double joint) full cheek.
         

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