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        05-13-2014, 11:39 AM
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    Yearling
    She stands square and I can walk all around her. Every time I groom or fly spray she is expected to stand still. Someone once told me I should be moving her around me so that she is the one moving her feet but its a lot easier if she just stands there lol I'm going to get our lunging back up to par and then address the leading issue. Thanks everyone!
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        05-13-2014, 11:47 AM
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    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by countrylove    
    That's the thing, she wasn't incorrectly taught. She had respect issues and had to be taught to stay out of the handler's space. I personally like my horses at a respectible distance but I want to do showmanship but my previous training contradicts showmanship. So basically I'm wondering if I can have the best of both worlds. This horse will go right back to being pushy if I'm not careful so that's what's got me worried right now. I don't want to ruin our training.
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    She was incorrectly taught, but you unkowingly did it. Proper leading is when a horse is at your shoulder, but not on your shoulder. They can still keep their distance without lagging behind you. Traditionally you don't let a horse lag behind, because if they spook and jump forward you have no chance to get out of the way. If they're at your shoulder you can react quicker and control the situation more.
         
        05-13-2014, 11:23 PM
      #13
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by SullysRider    
    She was incorrectly taught, but you unkowingly did it. Proper leading is when a horse is at your shoulder, but not on your shoulder. They can still keep their distance without lagging behind you. Traditionally you don't let a horse lag behind, because if they spook and jump forward you have no chance to get out of the way. If they're at your shoulder you can react quicker and control the situation more.
    First off no she is not incorrectly taught. She is taught for what works for her. No 2 horses are trained identical. She isn't directly behind and is only 1-2 feet behind and to the side. She was more dangerous in your space and is the type who if given an inch will take a mile. She has been taught extremely well and just because its not how you train does not make it incorrect. If you were truly a trainer you'd know there are many many ways of training horses. There is no one right way. As I've stated I'm going to perfect her lunge and then work on it with my trainer next time she's in my town. Thanks for your advice.
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        05-14-2014, 12:08 AM
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    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by countrylove    
    First off no she is not incorrectly taught. She is taught for what works for her. No 2 horses are trained identical. She isn't directly behind and is only 1-2 feet behind and to the side. She was more dangerous in your space and is the type who if given an inch will take a mile. She has been taught extremely well and just because its not how you train does not make it incorrect. If you were truly a trainer you'd know there are many many ways of training horses. There is no one right way. As I've stated I'm going to perfect her lunge and then work on it with my trainer next time she's in my town. Thanks for your advice.
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    If she was not incorrectly taught then why are you having to teach her something different? There is a reason horses are taught to lead where they are. I'm not saying you taught her in a wrong way, the results are just not what is taught for leading. I know all about pushy aggressive horses, my 18h 1400lb warmblood gelding came to me so aggressive you couldn't even go in a stall with him. He leads just like you would lead for showmanship, there is a reason they lead like that for showmanship. I never claimed to be a trainer, so I'm not sure where you got that from. I do have lots of experience with problem horses and starting horses, but I don't call myself a trainer. And I think you're misunderstanding the whole training in different ways, yes every horse learns different and will require you to change up things. But in the end you want the same result with every horse, it's not the end result that should be different, but the method you use to get it.
         

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