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    11-12-2010, 04:17 PM
  #1
Weanling
Question for trainers

How often do you like your clients coming out to watch you work with their horse?

I'm asking this because when I worked for a small time trainer, no one ever came to see their horse worked until the last day. My mare was sent out to be ridden last summer (I don't consider what he did training) and I was never given the chance to go see her. It was no big deal to the guy who took my mare out there, he didn't understand why I cared to watch her be ridden.

So now I have my mare out for training, she will have been out there for a week on Sunday. I sent her out because I hadn't had the time to ride the past 2 years and am RUSTY and haven't had time to keep her in consistent work. So if I had it my way I'd be out there every day trying to work with my horse, but I'll settle for giving them 1 month to work her, and then next month they keep working her but once a week going out for lessons on her with them.

The trainer said just give her a call to make sure she is around and will be working my mare around the time I want to head out, but I don't want to get in the way or for them to be annoyed by me there all the time.
She said she prefers the people that have actually witnessed what their horses are learning so their is no problems when they take their horses home, but I don't think many people that send their horses there would actually like to hang around their horses so much that I'd be willing to poop-scoop her pen. (No I'm not a crazy horse-love-sick teen haha, I just have lived away from the farm for almost 2 years now and I actually miss the hard labour of taking care of an animal)

So what do you trainers on here prefer? Once a week? More, less, or whenever the owner wants?
And how much do you try and get them involved with what you are doing while they are out watching?

Thanks!
     
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    11-12-2010, 04:28 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Other than the first few sessions my trainer had with Hunter I was encouraged to come out as often as possible so I could watch what she was doing. The last week of training I was encouraged to participate and we still do weekly lessons so I learn and understand what she has trained Hunter to do. I don't think I would go to a trainer that wouldn't allow me access to watch.
     
    11-12-2010, 04:28 PM
  #3
Trained
I very rarely have an owner come by or even call. Once or twice per week wouldn't bother me at all. Some owners would get on my nerves if they came more often but most would be welcome whenever they wanted.
     
    11-12-2010, 04:40 PM
  #4
Super Moderator
I'm not a trainer but I have one! I know she has clients that never come, clients that come once or twice a week and one client that shows up everyday to watch her work her horse. I personally would be annoyed at that but... she does ask that she be there if you come by. She deosnt' make you set a date and time just a round about I'm going to come by... whenever...
     
    11-12-2010, 04:52 PM
  #5
Showing
My customers are more than welcome to come visit any time they want to but most of them just don't. Mainly because it's like a 3 hour trip for all my customers right now but.....

Most of mine just show up to pick the horse up and ask to see me ride it or ask to ride it themselves.
     
    11-12-2010, 05:17 PM
  #6
Banned
I have seen trainers let thier clients come out any time and I have seen others that the only time their clients gets to see their horse is at the drop off and pick up times.

The trainers that do this (that I know) are gifted trainers. The reason they do it is to protect the client, so to speak. Some of the people who bring their horses in for training don't get that thier horse needs several Come to Jesus moments. These clients would freak out if they saw their "pweety ponie" being smacked for invading the trainers space. They don't realize that thier horse is 1,200 pounds of disrespect and danger.
Another reason is because they want to work the horse, not the client telling them how to do it. Just like when you think its annoying when you are doing your job, but somebody hovers over you and tells you how to do your job. Then you get to the point where you think to yourself, "If you know so much about training horses, why don't you just train the d*mned animal?"

I guess I don't mind it too much. If I knew the trainer and I had good reviews from other good horsemen in the area, I wouldn't have so much of a problem with it. Though I would like to be there the last couple days so I could learn how the horse was trained and be helped out by the trainer.
     
    11-12-2010, 06:38 PM
  #7
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by A knack for horses    
I have seen trainers let thier clients come out any time and I have seen others that the only time their clients gets to see their horse is at the drop off and pick up times.

The trainers that do this (that I know) are gifted trainers. The reason they do it is to protect the client, so to speak. Some of the people who bring their horses in for training don't get that thier horse needs several Come to Jesus moments. These clients would freak out if they saw their "pweety ponie" being smacked for invading the trainers space. They don't realize that thier horse is 1,200 pounds of disrespect and danger.
Another reason is because they want to work the horse, not the client telling them how to do it. Just like when you think its annoying when you are doing your job, but somebody hovers over you and tells you how to do your job. Then you get to the point where you think to yourself, "If you know so much about training horses, why don't you just train the d*mned animal?"

I guess I don't mind it too much. If I knew the trainer and I had good reviews from other good horsemen in the area, I wouldn't have so much of a problem with it. Though I would like to be there the last couple days so I could learn how the horse was trained and be helped out by the trainer.
I never once told my trainer what to do - that's why she is the trainer and I am not. I listened to what she told me, and there were a few times she had to be tough on Hunter but he deserved it.
     
    11-12-2010, 06:47 PM
  #8
Yearling
This is a double edged sword.

A client like you I wouldn't mind if you wanted to live in my barn and watch me work your horse and you can scoop out my pens anytime you want! Because you have a general working knowledge of horses and you understand at least part of the training process. It is nice to have knowledgeable horse owners as I like to work with them throughout the process so that the buttons I am putting on their horses are the buttons that they want and that they will be able to continue the training I have started once the horse goes back to them.

On the other hand...A client that thinks their horse is a cross between a giant dog and a toddler I will invite over once or twice a month and sometimes work their horse for real before they get there if it's a particularly rank or bratty horse.

I will flat out tell every client that I have that the only thing I guarantee is that their horse will show an improvement in manners and respect when they leave me. If they learn something under saddle from me that is icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned as most "re-train" horses don't need retrained...they need to be challenged by an alpha and they need to learn to be submissive and respectful. After that the rest of the training is usually cake. And if a baby/greenie is respectful and responsive on the ground they are easier to start under saddle and green break as well.
     
    11-12-2010, 11:04 PM
  #9
Banned
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter65    
I never once told my trainer what to do - that's why she is the trainer and I am not. I listened to what she told me, and there were a few times she had to be tough on Hunter but he deserved it.
I was just saying that's why some trainers don't allow clients to visit their horses.You sound like a responsible client and understand what goes into proper care and disipline for a horse. For clients like you, I'm sure most trainers would make the exception, probably even invite you to come and see your horse.
     
    11-13-2010, 12:12 PM
  #10
Foal
I'm in a wonderful training program where my horse's trainer is using me in lessons to train my horse. She's teaching two at one time and it has been wonderful. I would guess it depends on what kind of training and at what level you are but this has been a great process for me. I have three training lessons per week, ride him on my own once a week and trainer rides him once per week. Won't work for everyone but works for me.
     

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