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        07-23-2008, 01:19 AM
      #1
    Green Broke
    Questions? Questions! help!

    Okay I need to work on slowing down chance's trot.

    I've tried slowing her down on lunge but it doesnt work very well.
    I've slowed her down but then she tried to stop, so then I speed her up then she gets rushy. Help!?

    Also how do I get chance to take the bit! Last time it took me and 2 of my friends to get her to take it, then I had my friend/advice giver person to do it. I have apple wipe things but it doesnt make her want to take it any better. I know he teeth need to be floated but they looked at her and said it shouldnt be bothering her mouth to much. I've also tried putting a treat in my hand with the bit and she wont have anything to do with the treat. I just hate always having to ask people for help bridleing her.

    One more question. Chance doesnt pick up her feet when trotting.I know trot poles! But how far apart? How many??
         
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        07-23-2008, 01:43 AM
      #2
    Weanling
    To slow the trot down I would suggest Vaulteys (kinda like a circle), what this will try to do is slow her trot down. OK, So when you press the gum she wont open her mouth so you can put the bit in? Try to make each time you put the bit in, to be enjoyable, also.. what have you been usin this hole time? I mean is she just now gettin on the bit or is this a new problem?

    Thanks,
    Brandon
         
        07-23-2008, 01:46 AM
      #3
    Green Broke
    Good ways to slow the trot is by doing circles and changing directions and by doing serpentines. Hopefully that helps.

    Trot poles should be about 3-4 ft apart for her I would say, but i'm not a trot pole expert
         
        07-23-2008, 02:07 AM
      #4
    Weanling
    Well I apologize if I am soundin rude, but seein as you have 9 years of experience ridin and workin with horses I don't see why you are strugglin with these matters.. Is your methods not workin? Or is your horse bein stubborn?

    Thanks,
    Brandon
         
        07-23-2008, 03:47 PM
      #5
    Weanling
    When sonny wouldnt take the bit I would rub my finger along his gum on the outside between lip and teeth on the side where the gap is-tongue comes out bit slides in-only had to do it a couple times. Being patient is the rule too I think-sooner or later you are going to get it in-if you don't get frustrated
    I agree with above-serpentines for slowing-cant charge around when your turning.
         
        07-23-2008, 04:40 PM
      #6
    Trained
    Re: Questions? Questions! help!

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    Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever
    Also how do I get chance to take the bit! Last time it took me and 2 of my friends to get her to take it, then I had my friend/advice giver person to do it. I have apple wipe things but it doesnt make her want to take it any better. I know he teeth need to be floated but they looked at her and said it shouldnt be bothering her mouth to much. I've also tried putting a treat in my hand with the bit and she wont have anything to do with the treat. I just hate always having to ask people for help bridleing her.
    Has chance always been difficult to bridle? If not, what has changed?

    Sounds like this has been an ongoing thing and is just getting worse. I think that fighting her over it will only continue to make it worse. I would definitely check for pain / discomfort. Does she throw her head? Play with the bit? Does she take her halter OK? If it's not pain or discomfort, can you ever bridle her and just do nice things -- like grazing, visiting, grooming etc. Maybe she is associating the bridle only with riding and that's an issue? Maybe it's something she is remembering from bridle pressure when riding? Try riding her with a bitless, or if not available and she is well-behaved, just with a halter and two leads snapped on.
         
        07-23-2008, 09:16 PM
      #7
    Green Broke
    My horse is just plain stubborn brandon. She takes teh halter really well no problems she even lowers her head for me. I think its her teeth because when I rub the gums or try she throws her head up. She broke a cross tie. But once we get the bit in she just lowers her head. But also when riding after a lot of turning ect she kinda throws her head. She's getting her teeth floated pretty soon so I think ill just ride her in a halter for now.
    im also gona try what my trainer says and see if it works. Basicly hug her head rub her gums and just let her back up till she opens her mouth and it seems to work so I think ill do it like that for now.

    I worked on slowing her trot down today and I think we got it lol. Tomorrow ill lay out some trot poles.
         
        07-24-2008, 12:45 PM
      #8
    Weanling
    HAF have you tried usin the treat deal? Where Immediatly after she opens her mouth for the bit, you put the bit in and toss a treat in. Try to make each time you put the bit in, enjoyable.

    What do people at the barn do when you ask them to bridle her?
         
        07-24-2008, 12:51 PM
      #9
    Yearling
    I've had the bridle problem a lot and something my trainer taught me, I know may sound mean but it works, when you go to put the bridle on put the crown piece in ur right hand and grab her ear, then use ur left hand to hold the bit, try squeezing with ur left hand on her gum to put the bit in if she doesnt open and tries to pull her head back pull down with ur right hand on her ear, so then she learns if she doesnt accept the bit its more uncomfortable not to.

    I know it sounds mean but i've had a lot of horses due this and I used to have to get help because i'm only 5'2" but then when I taught my gelding this, after about 3 tries now he just opens his mounth and he doesnt even fight me, but the funny thing is he wont put the bit in his mouth unless I hold his ear, I don't yank but he still just wants me to hold it when I put it on.
         
        07-24-2008, 12:57 PM
      #10
    Weanling
    ^Hmm.. yea I see where your comin from, that's not a bad way to do it..

    LOL I laughed when you said your horse wouldn't take the bit unless you held his ear.. that's just hilarious, because I can just imagine that horse sittin there like "umm aren't you forgettin somethin *flicks ear around*."
         

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