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post #11 of 35 Old 12-30-2009, 11:40 PM
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YES! I agree one hundred percent! High-five, Riosdad! I can't tell you how many riding buddies I no longer have because they do stuff like that.

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post #12 of 35 Old 12-31-2009, 01:35 AM
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Pace is extremely important, as pointed out by Rios! It's extremely difficult to enjoy a trail ride with other people, when there's a leader who can't control pace very well.

That said, it's also annoying when other riders behind you can't control their horse's pace, and you wind up in situations where you are having your horse be 'run up' by another horse; good way to ruin a horse who doesn't mind having other horses behind him, or get his heels clipped good.

I think those are the two that are really important on my trail horse list; that and teaching a horse to maintain his gait, even if he IS going toward home...Lol!

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post #13 of 35 Old 12-31-2009, 07:21 AM
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Good post Rio - we change leaders from time to time and pace setting is one of the prerequisites.

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post #14 of 35 Old 01-02-2010, 05:23 PM
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More please

Great help everyone, so far. Great situations, or bad I guess, for covering. Thank you all so much and please add more as you think or experience them. I plan on starting mid January so there is still plenty of time.
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post #15 of 35 Old 01-02-2010, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jubilee View Post
Jigging and shying on the trail is a big problem I've experienced a lot, and refusing to go over obstacles (ditches, puddles, logs, etc.) are some of the problems I have had the most trouble with. One of the more serious problems I have had on the trail is my horse spooking and trying to run back to the barn, I fell and broke my arm on that one... mostly that was a problem with my horse's fundamental training, I should not have had him on trails yet. But that is a common problem: Barn sourness.

Those are just a few suggestions. Let me know how it goes. I would love to hear what you have to say on the mater.

I have posted a short bit on crossing obstacles for you. Leave any questions or comments.
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Thank you. I will check it out.


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post #17 of 35 Old 01-03-2010, 11:38 AM
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Making a good trail horse is hard, especially if they have already been ruined by someone else. My pet peeve with my last gelding was keeping his mind engaged. I would want to do a nice extended trot through the hills, and he would speed up, see something and slow way down and flag is tail and start snorting, and then speed up and half halt, and then speed up, and then see something and tuck his butt a little and spook. It was annoying! I did a lot of dressage work on the flat areas of the trail which helped me get his mind back, and a lot of walk only trail rides. It took several months to get a decent amount of improvement, but he was never perfect. ESPECIALLY if we ran into another horse. If that horse was going faster than him, or going in the direction of home, standby for the ride of your life! Thank God for one reign stops haha!
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post #18 of 35 Old 01-04-2010, 12:34 PM
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Very good point and it is one of the hardest to get people to understand. There are a lot of lessons to deal with different issues, but there is no quick fix. Just because the horse responds correctly in one situation does not mean it will do so in another. There are horses out there that just changing from one arena to another is enough to un-nerve them. This is where the riders consistency is so important. The more consistent the rider is the more consistent the horse becomes. Some horses may become decent trail mounts in one or two months, others may take six months to a year, while others may take years to become a great trail mount. An important fact that helps with your patience is to remember for a human, it takes 2000 repetitions to stop a habit, 2000 repetitions to form a habit, and get this 10,000 repetitions to form an unconscious response. That is a lot of consistent responses a rider must do to get the horse to control fear without thinking about it.
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post #19 of 35 Old 01-04-2010, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by laceyf53 View Post
My pet peeve with my last gelding was keeping his mind engaged. !
I don't worry about my horse's mind. I am off in my own little world and I let the horse alone. Reins slack and just jogging long thinking about everything but the horse. He knows what I will do if he misbehaves, I know what I will do so we leave it at that and we both enjoy the outing. I also hate talking on a ride, I like quiet and only the occassional word comes from me communicating with the horse and he will listen for those words of wisdom
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post #20 of 35 Old 01-04-2010, 11:21 PM
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Oh, but RiosDad your horses' mind is engaged, that is why you are able to enjoy the ride ; ) Your horse is waiting on you and is calm and relaxed because he knows he is in fair and consistent hands.
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