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post #1 of 14 Old 07-03-2013, 01:37 AM Thread Starter
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Exclamation Rear & buck if not leading

So my mare "tamma" will throw a huge fit if she is not in the front... i am a confident rider and ride out her fits, but i am looking for advice to get her to calm down and be ok with walking behind or next to other horses.... She is completely fine in the front but starts hopping/rearing if another horse passes her... we were walking our horses today and another horse passed her at a WALK and she threw a fit and started bucking... ive tried doing circles with her. but i use her on trail rides and need to get her calmed down.... sometimes our trails are to skinny for circles and bucking etc. so i want to work with her around the house with other horses so she will be ready to go back out on the trail, and it isnt always possible for me to lead on her... any help would be greatly appreciated!!! its my fiancee's horse and he wants to get rid of her because she does that, i want to try to get her fixed because i love her to death!
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post #2 of 14 Old 07-03-2013, 01:49 AM
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does she react this way even when you hand walk her on the ground?
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post #3 of 14 Old 07-03-2013, 12:01 PM Thread Starter
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no she is fine hand walking
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post #4 of 14 Old 07-03-2013, 12:19 PM
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Your horse is rearing because you are trying to 'hold' her still or 'hold' her back with both reins. This gives a 'reactive' horse (one that is upset and not thinking or 'responding) no where to go but up -- so she goes up.

Read this entire thread, especially page 3 where I explain exactly how to teach the 'one rein stop'. It has to be me ............I am so discouraged

If you follow all of these steps, you will be able to get this horse under control without a fight and without causing her to rear up.
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post #5 of 14 Old 07-03-2013, 12:30 PM
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Practice trail riding in the arena with other horses first. One thing I do sometimes is we play follow the leader, and every person gets a chance to be leader. You would walk and follow, then the first person would say when they wanted ot be done and go to the back.

Mae sure to groundwork her a lot before getting on, practice a ton in the arena, and when she is a little bit better in the arena, then walk around the driveway until she gets good. One thing that might help is when she starts acting up, stop and back her up. She doesn't want to be left behind obviously right? SO when she acts up, make her go farther and farther back. When you trust her not to throw a fit, then catch up with the horses and stop. It's ok if people are behind you when you do this - just make sure they know your situation with the horse so they will give you space.

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post #6 of 14 Old 07-03-2013, 01:08 PM
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Oh my, this sounds like my mare! Except she is not fine even being led behind other horses. Mine will barely (but she does) allow 1 other pony in the front. And she really eyeballs if one gets on her side to walk side by side. I also agree with you, out on the trails isn't always the best place to do those circles. Good luck to you , sorry I can't give any advice. But will read all replies.
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post #7 of 14 Old 07-03-2013, 02:31 PM
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If that is the position she so strongly wants, why would you want to change it? The lead is where she is most comfortable. Trail rides aren't about talking to your friends.
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post #8 of 14 Old 07-03-2013, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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well i cant always have her in the front because sometimes we want the younger horses to lead. that way they get a chance to, and she is fine in the arena, and fine in the driveway as long as your not riding her with a competitive horse, ive noticed if i ride her with a lazy easy going horse she is not as tempted to act up, but i ride her with my boss and other friends, so we always let everyone get a chance to be up front that way our young horses get some experience doing it, or my boss leads, im always in the middle or back, sometimes in the front. but i will definitely read that thread and give it a try!
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post #9 of 14 Old 07-04-2013, 08:27 AM
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No! No! No! You can't have her running the show. Your horse just cannot 'drive the bus'.

You have to first get her comfortable with being tied up well away from any horses. That is a really important first step.

Then, you have to teach her a really good 'one rein stop' as explained in the other thread. This gives you a tool to handle a horse that wants to get reactive and out of control. It is like installing an 'off switch'.

At the same time, you need to learn how to control a horse with 'one rein riding' instead of pulling on both reins at the same time. This is where all rearing in an excited or anxious horse comes from. You have to learn to NOT get a horse in a bind or trap by giving an anxious horse no where to go but up. When a horse in this position lunges forward like they are trying to buck, they are also fighting a rider pulling on both reins. When a rider pulls on both reins, they not only give the horse no where to go --- they also give the horse something to fight. This is why experienced riders instantly 'pull a horse's head around' when one tries to take off or buck. A horse cannot brace or fight a rider pulling on one rein nearly as well as they can fight a rider pulling on both reins.
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post #10 of 14 Old 07-04-2013, 09:15 AM
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Work her HARD when she is at the front and ONLY let her rest when she is behind other horses. And I mean get a good sweat going.
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