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        06-14-2011, 08:12 PM
      #11
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by SAsamone    
    I agree RockinIt, it IS dangerous and stupid.

    And GoldenHorse, I'm familiar with rearing, however, I wanted to see what other techniques I could bring to the table in case mine didn't work. I had never heard, nor thought of cracking a horse on the head with an egg or whatever, though, I guess it makes sense. .
    I think that trick should be buried in a box marked ways to get yourself killed, if you think it through, you have to ride the whole time with your handy dandy fresh egg in your hand, which could make the communication between horse and rider a little difficult.

    You then have to be well balanced and coordinated enough to be able to reach forward and crack said egg on horses poll at the right time, all in all it sounds more myth than sound practice.

    I have never had to deal with a determined rearer, so I have no advice to give, apart from seek in person advice if you need it.

    A tie down will stop her getting her head in the air, but may increase the possibility of her going up and over maybe.

    Good luck with her anyway
         
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        06-14-2011, 09:16 PM
      #12
    Super Moderator
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    Originally Posted by RockinIt    
    A twist on the situation. Say the horse was trained to rear and thus became a rearer. Would you try to "fix" them the same way? I've seen several people lately who think it's cool to train their horses to rear. I find this dangerous and somewhat stupid (no offence to those who have trained it...it's just my opinion...you know what they say about those).
    Yep, you would. But it won't always work. ESPECIALLY when the horse has been trained to rear. (I speak from experience - I was a 15 year old who thought it was cool). My horse is 27 now and still will rear given the oppurtunity.
         
        06-14-2011, 09:19 PM
      #13
    Super Moderator
    [QUOTE=Golden Horse;1065364]I think that trick should be buried in a box marked ways to get yourself killed, if you think it through, you have to ride the whole time with your handy dandy fresh egg in your hand, which could make the communication between horse and rider a little difficult.

    You then have to be well balanced and coordinated enough to be able to reach forward and crack said egg on horses poll at the right time, all in all it sounds more myth than sound practice.
    Done it! You have to get your timing right because if you do it on the way down then you missed out and did not accomplish anything and you have to hit it just right or it won't break. And when it breaks it is MESSY. PS - I didn't get the timing right.
    I have never had to deal with a determined rearer, so I have no advice to give, apart from seek in person advice if you need it.

    A tie down will stop her getting her head in the air, but may increase the possibility of her going up and over maybe.
    It will keep the rears lower but won't stop them....
    Good luck with her anyway
         
        06-14-2011, 09:36 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    The reason I choose it is because if the horse can't get it's head up, it makes rearing uncomfortable, thus making it less of a thing to want to do. Of course, as mentioned, it can make it more dangerous if the horse decides to rear full out anyway, as the horse has akward balance, however this is why I lunge with it on first- to see the reaction- if the horse freaks out initially, it's usually not going to work.

    But going back to the egg thing- people really do this????? I can see the logic, as mentioned before, but I just don't see how effective it would be?
         
        06-14-2011, 09:41 PM
      #15
    Super Moderator
    It is effective IF you do it right but it's a lot harder than it sounds.
         
        06-15-2011, 02:12 AM
      #16
    Foal
    There was a large thread about peoples opinions on the egg thing quite recently, some people swear by it and others wouldn't go anywhere near it. If your interested in the method or just hearing some opinions on it try searching it there were a lot of responses. I can't remember what it was called unfortunately
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        06-15-2011, 03:17 AM
      #17
    Started
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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    I think that trick should be buried in a box marked ways to get yourself killed, if you think it through, you have to ride the whole time with your handy dandy fresh egg in your hand, which could make the communication between horse and rider a little difficult.

    You then have to be well balanced and coordinated enough to be able to reach forward and crack said egg on horses poll at the right time, all in all it sounds more myth than sound practice.
    Yeah, I agree that method would be a wee bit difficult to get right, but on a similar note, I know of both a well known trainer close to here, and a friend of mine, who carry watter bottles with sheeps blood and water in it if they are riding a rearer. Apparently it's easier to squirt it at the top of their head instead of having to reach up and actually smack the head with an egg. It stopped one of the ponies with just a few squirts because he freaked out at the smell of the blood and thought "oh, if I don't go up there, I don't get covered in blood"
    (Water was mixed so the blood wouldn't stay stuck to his head)

    I have never had to deal with a determined rearer, so I have no advice to give, apart from seek in person advice if you need it.

    A tie down will stop her getting her head in the air, but may increase the possibility of her going up and over maybe.
    Wouldn't that unbalance the horse if he/she did rear, because they can't use their head to steady themselves, so wouldn't that increase the chance of the horse flipping over and getting injured?? Just wondering :)
    Good luck with her anyway

    I can't stand rearers... I will ride buckers and bolters, but I hate rearers. Good luck with her :)
         
        06-15-2011, 08:04 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    Ive also heard of trainers with old low barn beamed stalls that take rearers in the barn and let them try to rear in there. They say that if the horse smacks their own heads a couple of times they soon learn to keep their feet on the ground. I thought it was kind of extreme but if a horse becomes dangerous and unuseable it may be better than sending them off to a sale.
         
        06-15-2011, 08:16 AM
      #19
    Showing
    It is best to prevent the rear from happening. The mechanics of rearing are that both hind feet need to be on the ground. The horse will bunch his muscles, and rock back in order to rear. I'd work both on the ground and in the saddle at getting this horse to move his hindquarters laterally and without hesitation. By doing this one leg is always moving. His balance is considerably altered and he can't rear with only one foot on the ground. He may have been pushed in his training so it might be best to start again as tho he knows nothing and plug a few holes. If he rears during groundwork, don't yank on the halter but use your lunge whip and point it at his hip. That will worry him. Then do lots of lateral work driving his hips around.
         
        06-15-2011, 09:20 AM
      #20
    Weanling
    If pain is not a factor rearing is caused by the rider taking rein to correct an issue (rushing) rather than pushing horse forward and getting them connected over their back.

    To help stop rearing - when horse hesitates (i.e. Has not yet stopped) push horse forward energetically.

    If horse is relatively stationary and fighting rider be certain to keep hind legs crossing over each other - hard for horse to rear if their legs are crossed.
         

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