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post #11 of 30 Old 01-21-2013, 06:28 PM
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Your horse will not rear, if she respects you. My horse use to rear (she only did it 2 times) and when I would post on here, everyone would say she had no respect for me. I did not believe it, as I though we had a great bond, like we did, I got her 5 months ago.

After a while, we were better, then she started being stupid again (fortunatly not rearing though) but I came to realize, people were right, I have been avoiding the cause of the problem... therefore not making it better.

So as much as you hate to hear it, your horse doesn't have complete respect for you, you need to earn her respect and trust back before things will get better, otherwise, she will continue doing stupid things, maybe not be all the time, it could be off and on... but that is still no excuse.
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post #12 of 30 Old 01-21-2013, 06:33 PM
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Yea, that's what I've been trying to do! Did he eventually just understand that he's going to have to work either way? I'm hoping she'll get it eventually!!
He did. But he is a very sensitive horse and he will still, very rarely(about 2 or 3 times a year) think about rearing.

Good luck to you and your mare!
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Your horse will not rear, if she respects you. My horse use to rear (she only did it 2 times) and when I would post on here, everyone would say she had no respect for me. I did not believe it, as I though we had a great bond, like we did, I got her 5 months ago.

After a while, we were better, then she started being stupid again (fortunatly not rearing though) but I came to realize, people were right, I have been avoiding the cause of the problem... therefore not making it better.

So as much as you hate to hear it, your horse doesn't have complete respect for you, you need to earn her respect and trust back before things will get better, otherwise, she will continue doing stupid things, maybe not be all the time, it could be off and on... but that is still no excuse.

Yea, I can definitely see that, as that was one issue I knew I had to cover with her as soon as I got her. She has been improving SOSO much recently though in her respect towards both me and people who handle her. Where there any exercises or anything that you would recommend to teach her to respect me even when she doesn't want to do what I ask, or do I just need to stick it out and make her? Also, I know someone (I forget the name, sorry haha!!) said to make her understand that rearing=more work, and that does make sense to me, as it is a similar approach to what I have been trying and sounds like it would make her realize she crossed the line a lot quicker, but how would you say "No"? When she would buck, I would spin her in a small circle to disengage her hindquarters, but that wasn't so much for punishment I guess as it was to stop the problem, so what similar ways are there to get the same point across except with rearing??


BTW thanks for your replies so far guys! They're reminding me of things I haven't thought about in a while!!!
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Your horse will not rear, if she respects you. My horse use to rear (she only did it 2 times) and when I would post on here, everyone would say she had no respect for me. I did not believe it, as I though we had a great bond, like we did, I got her 5 months ago.

After a while, we were better, then she started being stupid again (fortunatly not rearing though) but I came to realize, people were right, I have been avoiding the cause of the problem... therefore not making it better.

So as much as you hate to hear it, your horse doesn't have complete respect for you, you need to earn her respect and trust back before things will get better, otherwise, she will continue doing stupid things, maybe not be all the time, it could be off and on... but that is still no excuse.



Yea, I can definitely see that, as that was one issue I knew I had to cover with her as soon as I got her. She has been improving SOSO much recently though in her respect towards both me and people who handle her. Where there any exercises or anything that you would recommend to teach her to respect me even when she doesn't want to do what I ask, or do I just need to stick it out and make her? Also, I know someone (I forget the name, sorry haha!!) said to make her understand that rearing=more work, and that does make sense to me, as it is a similar approach to what I have been trying and sounds like it would make her realize she crossed the line a lot quicker, but how would you say "No"? When she would buck, I would spin her in a small circle to disengage her hindquarters, but that wasn't so much for punishment I guess as it was to stop the problem, so what similar ways are there to get the same point across except with rearing??


BTW thanks for your replies so far guys! They're reminding me of things I haven't thought about in a while!!!

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OP, perhaps you've done something right, because she tolerates being ridden for an hour before she's "had it", rather than only several minutes, as was the case before, unless she's just shut down, is "going through the motions" with no real interest, & has, by that strategy, lengthened her time. You'd want to know the reason for the time extension on her part, to help you solve the puzzle.

You want her to feel 100% ok inside (emotionally), & your leadership requires that this is priority over all other considerations, such as your wanting to ride longer. If you ride better, the riding longer will take care of itself.
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post #16 of 30 Old 01-21-2013, 06:56 PM
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Haha mine has snuck a few in on me as well.. it happens..

Do the same thing as you do when she bucks.. pull her into a circle and make her WORK that circle... You just have to have a " oh heck no you dint"attitude when she does this.. after your done doing the circles(or whatever your prefered manuever is- some times I will run a fence and make the horse turn back) go back to making her do what you were asking her to do before she thought rearing was a good idea. If you can handle her (which it sounds like you can) do not let her dictate how long you can ride her.
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The goal of true horsemanship is to have a partnership, with the human reliable enough to lead. Intrinsic to the partnership is the horse feeling 100% ok with the situation.

The fork in the road: You can deal with her lack of ok-ness at the point when she wants to unload you by MAKING her keep going, or you can become such a good leader that she WANTS to keep going, no longer wants you off.

I'm sure that, from all posts, my point is clear, so I'm finished here.
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post #18 of 30 Old 01-21-2013, 11:24 PM
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No horse does anything without signaling it. To rear they have to get light in front. To kick they have to shift weight. To bite, they have to move neck to move head.

She is telling you and you are not hearing it.

I would pay attention and the very first minute she got light and came up a little, I would POP between ears with flat of hand. To do this, of course you need to have reins in one hand.

I've also used bottle of warm water, years ago, glass a mess, but had better success with egg in hand. Can use butt end of crop.

And you need to be throwing weight forwards, and react when legs first go up.

Horse is doing it because she is running the show. Or wants to. Has had enough of what you are doing and is saying NO.
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Like what Palomine described with water and the egg is very effective. Although I don't like getting egg all over my bridles, I use a water balloon..

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Like what Palomine described with water and the egg is very effective. Although I don't like getting egg all over my bridles, I use a water balloon..
What is this cowboy superstition! LOL that doesn't really work does it?
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