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    04-29-2012, 08:03 PM
  #1
Foal
Unhappy rearing and other dangerous behaviors

I am currently working with a friends horse that has some troubling issues. She rears when I try to mount her from the ground or from a block. She has had her back checked by a vet and all is well. Her saddle also fits her. Once on, she is generally ok and moves nicely except when I ask her to do something she doesnt want to ie. Go around a building to the left instead of the right, cross a ditch etc. She then will rear, and what is worse, she can back up faster than you can blink an eye and she keeps going. Nothing, and I mean nothing, one rein stops, circling, kicking stops her until she is ready to stop.

My friend has had her for 7 years and has only ridden her around 6 times, because of her behavior. I understand she had a good foundation when she was 3but now wow! What a handful! She is a nicely gaited paso fino and very loving on the ground. She knows the join up and follow up proceedures. I would love to bring her along but I don't know if I am setting myself up for an accident. I also have 2 wonderful paso finos which I thourghly trained from 3year olds and they are the best behaved, willing, trail horsesI have ever owned.
I could sure use some advice regarding this horse.
     
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    04-29-2012, 08:15 PM
  #2
Showing
This horse sounds dangerous.. honestly I think you need to start carrying a crop with you and give her a good whack everytime she attempts to rear, back 100mph, or any other bad habits.

Also I find it incredible that she's only been on a few handfuls of times. Obviously the horse owns her leadership and controls her since she can't even go out riding without him throwing a fit and being dangerous.

Don't go off of my advice alone, wait for others to post.

But be careful. Habits that have been kept the same for YEARS.. are VERY difficult to overcome. She may even need to be re-started by someone capable (not saying you are, just general statement.)
     
    04-29-2012, 08:17 PM
  #3
Started
I'd start over, from the very beginning. Treat her as if she's never had a person on her back. Any issues that she has, work her from the ground first. Earn her respect and her trust. I'd go with a natural horsemanship ground training program.
     
    04-29-2012, 08:18 PM
  #4
Green Broke
How much training experience do you have?
     
    04-29-2012, 08:33 PM
  #5
Trained
I'd be shipping that horse on a direct line either to a professional breaker with a heck of a lot of experience and credential working with rearers, or on a truck to the doggers yard. A horse that rears as a regular evasion to any pressure, is an extremely dangerous animal, and not one that should be tackled by amateurs. If it were mine, it'd be in a can. Too many good horses in the world to risk your neck with something that stands and can very easily flip.
Sorry, probably not what you wanted to hear, but I have absolute zero tolerance for chronic rearers.
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    04-29-2012, 08:36 PM
  #6
Showing
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Originally Posted by Kayty    
I'd be shipping that horse on a direct line either to a professional breaker with a heck of a lot of experience and credential working with rearers
Agree with this. Not sure you can handle it, OP.. we don't want you seriously hurt.
     
    04-29-2012, 08:42 PM
  #7
Trained
Exactly what Kayty said. This horse is a ticking time bomb, she needs a professional trainer that will take on a rearer, if not, pasture pet or in the can.
     
    04-29-2012, 09:01 PM
  #8
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Running backwards is just as unsafe if not worse than rearing. To be real honest with you, this spoiled horse is not worth the time, trouble or money to attempt to 'fix' her. I would let the chips fall where they may on this one. Any horse running backwards is backing blind. If a hind foot steps in a hole or runs into something, they flop upside down faster than you can blink.

I used to re-school a lot of rearing horses and horses that 'stalled out' or ran backwards. It used to be worth it to me -- but not any more.

Even then, I never tried to ride them. I put them in driving lines where they could not hurt me and I could spank their butts until they WANTED to go forward. I never got on one until I could drive it, back it up, make it stop backing up and go forward again -- over ditches with water in them (lived in irrigated country then), over dead-fall trees, through lanes with sheets of plywood and tarps laying in them and on and on and on. They were broke, broke, broke before I stepped up on one.

I have personally known 2 men (one a pretty good trainer) that were killed by horses rearing and falling on them. One had fatal head injuries and the other, a trainer / friend of mine had a fractured rib pushed through his heart when his chest was crushed.
     
    04-29-2012, 09:05 PM
  #9
Trained
The fear of rearing was installed into me when I was about 12, saw a horse go over backwards on a girl. She was lifeless on the ground & I saw blood coming out her ears. I didn't really know the girl that well, but I had rode her horse before, it did rear on me too as with all my friends that tried to ride this mare.
     
    04-29-2012, 09:09 PM
  #10
Green Broke
I agree 100% with Cherie.

There are too many good horses out there for you to waste your time and put yourself at risk with this one. Any horse that will run blindly backwards has some screws loose and a nasty attitude. It's not worth getting hurt over.

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