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        06-14-2011, 05:35 PM
      #21
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    Originally Posted by Karamee    
    first of all I know what im doing when it comes to horses.. I've handled studs before.. im trying to figure out a nicer way to break him instead of beating him everytie he rears.. I've been training my own horses since I was twelve and everyone has turned out great.. I've ust never had to deal with a rearer that tried hurting people.. my only thought is to teach him a lesson that he wont forget everytime he rears.. since yall are no help.
    We're NO HELP do you hear me? NONE! Because we can't magically fix her horse from over the interwebz!

    You're in over your head, OP. I don't know how old you are, but you sound extremely young. Nobody who's that good with horses would claim they've been breaking them since they were 12 y/o, because every tween/teen with Black Stallion Syndrome makes a claim like that. Actual trainers don't need to brag about how great they are, have contacts in the real world, and would never ask a bunch of people on a random horse BB how to fix a problem.

    If you really are pregnant, you don't need to be dealing with a rank SOB of a stallion who is going to hurt or kill you because you don't have a clue how to handle him.

    I'm out of this thread. I can hear the train comin' down the tracks, and I don't wanna be here for the crash and subsequent wreck.
         
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        06-14-2011, 05:42 PM
      #22
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    Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
    And we're NO HELP do you hear me? NONE! Because we can't magically fix her horse from over the interwebz!

    You're in over your head, OP. I don't know how old you are, but you sound extremely young. Nobody who's that good with horses would claim they've been breaking them since they were 12 y/o, because every tween/teen with Black Stallion Syndrome makes a claim like that. Actual trainers don't need to brag about how great they are, have contacts in the real world, and would never ask a bunch of people on a random horse BB how to fix a problem.

    If you really are pregnant, you don't need to be dealing with a rank SOB of a stallion who is going to hurt or kill you because you don't have a clue how to handle him.

    I'm out of this thread. I can hear the train comin' down the tracks, and I don't wanna be here for the crash and subsequent wreck.
    This! Also this "friend" that has been lounging him for you would happen to be the one he ran flat over would it??? I sure hope she is on your families insurance. If not ur in for some DEEP doo doo. Some insurance companies wount insure you if there is a stud on property. Now some one has been hurt by him. You are just digging your grave deeper and deeper.
         
        06-14-2011, 05:49 PM
      #23
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    Originally Posted by sehrlieb    
    If you've handled studs before and are experienced in doing so you must then realize that they often will act up and rear. He's acting aggressively towards you because he knows he's the boss and he can get away with it. When dealing with a stallion you can't always get away with being gentle. Horses are big tough animals and while I don't condone any excessive abuse, sometimes you need to put a stud in it's place. Use a chain, carry a whip, use a "rearing bit", whatever it takes to get him to respect your space and respect you. As I've said, if you don't already know and realize this then you shouldn't be handling a stud and you've already let him walk all over you.
    he hasnt walked all over me yet.. nor is he going to. And that's all I wanted to hear I didnt know if there was a different way to doing it than being a ass to him back.. I don't know the whole natural horsemanship I just started learning all that about a year ago. Thanks for that..

    And myhorsesonador its not my parents choice to go out there and my parents can't stop me.. I told them I would keep him and see what I could do after the baby was born. They said ok. I told them if he doesnt change then he will be sold or gelded. He just started acting up about 3 months go.. ii personally havent been out there with him sim=nce he second time he reared and knocked him on the head. It was to dangerous at the time. ""IF you know what you doing then why are you here. He isnt sume cute little foo foo cudly poo. If you have a method that works then use it. If you want him to remember why not to rear you can't be a softy.

    If you've had a stud before you should know how to handle one. ""


    I never said I owned one I said I have handled one and it was just riding.. but my mae acted far worse.. someone told me ask around and see what else you can figure out before taking drastic measures with him.. I thought this would be he best place.. so more advice on training and less advice on telling me to give up on him and sell him.

    Speed racer I didnt say I was a expert I just don't believe selling him is a answer to his problems when I can get a little help but so far only two people are helping me with different attitude adjustment situations.. everyone else is saying sell him when I talked to someone else and he said selling isnt the answer to his problems.. im not going to run away from this horse.. he hasnt get the best of me yet.. and he isnt going to. I've had 5 horses since I was twelve and yes im still young.. and I have started them and trained them.. most of them were mares and a couple of geldings I don't laim to know what im doing all the time. I need help just like everyone else does. Im just sick of people telling me im in over my head when I know for **** well im not.. I've had no one help train my horses and I've missed some gaps on my 9 year old mare.. I don't want to miss those with him. Yes I got her to stop rearing but there are still some problems with her..
         
        06-14-2011, 05:54 PM
      #24
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    Originally Posted by Karamee    
    he hasnt walked all over me yet.. nor is he going to. And that's all I wanted to hear I didnt know if there was a different way to doing it than being a ass to him back.. I don't know the whole natural horsemanship I just started learning all that about a year ago. Thanks for that..

    And myhorsesonador its not my parents choice to go out there and my parents can't stop me.. I told them I would keep him and see what I could do after the baby was born. They said ok. I told them if he doesnt change then he will be sold or gelded. He just started acting up about 3 months go.. ii personally havent been out there with him sim=nce he second time he reared and knocked him on the head. It was to dangerous at the time. ""IF you know what you doing then why are you here. He isnt sume cute little foo foo cudly poo. If you have a method that works then use it. If you want him to remember why not to rear you can't be a softy.

    If you've had a stud before you should know how to handle one. ""


    I never said I owned one I said I have handled one and it was just riding.. but my mae acted far worse.. someone told me ask around and see what else you can figure out before taking drastic measures with him.. I thought this would be he best place.. so more advice on training and less advice on telling me to give up on him and sell him.

    Speed racer I didnt say I was a expert I just don't believe selling him is a answer to his problems when I can get a little help but so far only two people are helping me with different attitude adjustment situations.. everyone else is saying sell him when I talked to someone else and he said selling isnt the answer to his problems.. im not going to run away from this horse.. he hasnt get the best of me yet.. and he isnt going to. I've had 5 horses since I was twelve and yes im still young.. and I have started them and trained them.. most of them were mares and a couple of geldings I don't laim to know what im doing all the time. I need help just like everyone else does. Im just sick of people telling me im in over my head when I know for **** well im not.. I've had no one help train my horses and I've missed some gaps on my 9 year old mare.. I don't want to miss those with him. Yes I got her to stop rearing but there are still some problems with her..
    Well then good luck, hope you or some one you know don't die. Hope you stick around to share your vast knowlage.
         
        06-14-2011, 05:55 PM
      #25
    Foal
    Im asking about the horse training. Not my insurance.
         
        06-14-2011, 05:58 PM
      #26
    Foal
    Ok like I said before I don't know everything I asked forhelp not someone to be a smartass to me. Man yall are blowing him way out of proportion he's a rearer not a crazy freakin mustang..

    Ever heard this? "there are enough riders in the world, not enough horsemen"

    Yall just proved that point..
         
        06-14-2011, 05:58 PM
      #27
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    Originally Posted by Karamee    
    im asking about the horse training. Not my insurance.
    Your not seeing the big picture. Like I said good luck
         
        06-14-2011, 06:00 PM
      #28
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    Originally Posted by Karamee    
    ok like I said before I don't know everything I asked forhelp not someone to be a smartass to me. Man yall are blowing him way out of proportion he's a rearer not a crazy freakin mustang..

    Ever heard this? "there are enough riders in the world, not enough horsemen"

    Yall just proved that point..
    Do you realize that most trainers wouldnt touch a rearer with a 100 ft poll?

    We arn't smart assing you.

    I would take a wild mustang over a rearer any day.
         
        06-14-2011, 06:10 PM
      #29
    Green Broke
    Get a trainer or sell him. Period the end.
    I'm 17, I can go aroun and tell everyone and their brother I've trained horses since I was 12. And it migh be partially right. I've worked with (and "cured") horses who have reared, kicked (working with another one now), bolted, etc. Someone could easily call me a problem horse trainer, but I won't call myself that. I have never taken a horse from colt/filly to finished, and I won't call myself a trainer until I do so, with a trainer telling me that I did everything one of he correct ways.
    I don't care how old, how experienced, how knowledgable you claim yourself to be, I will not acknowledge you as a horse trainer. Not every good horseman(woman) can handle a stud, regardless of how many horses they've handled. If they can't understand that a stud is different than a mare/gelding, they will not be able to effectively handle a stallion with nobody getting hurt or killed.

    You can't say that a horse won't walk all over you. It's never a garuntee, they're about 8+ times your size. I made that mistake, actually, and I got trampled by two for it. Think I plan on making it again? I think not. It's really not a risk you should even be willing to take with a child.

    Do you not understand why most of us are telling you to either get a professional trainer or to sell him? No one wants to hear that you got hurt/killed by a stallion that we realised you can most likely not handle, especially while pregnant.

    A lot of people can't admit that they're in over their heads, and sorry to say, but you seem like one of those people. I know what I can handle and how much risk I'm willing to take with my body, and that amount would change in a heartbeat if I was responsible for another life (aka a child).
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        06-14-2011, 06:11 PM
      #30
    Foal
    I'm also curious, why are you starting him as a 2 year old? Are you preparing him for a futurity or just breaking him to get it done? If you have no real plans for him anytime I'd hold off on breaking him under saddle. Instead do TONS of groundwork and get him to respect you more. If you don't have his respect on the ground you're going to run into more problems when you're on his back. No horse is really mature enough at 2 to be carrying a rider. If he needs a job to keep his mind occupied then do round pen work, start long lining him, take him for hand walks and get him to respect your space and keep all four feet on the ground, even if you have to run a chain through his mouth, get after him and YELL at him when he started to act up.
         

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