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        08-07-2009, 06:34 PM
    Um did anyone notice that rusty is 2 cooll 4 you, poted as RedneckGirrll? She said thanks for you help, t.j.
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        08-07-2009, 06:44 PM
    Was thinking maybe OP and redneck girl are friends and share computer and didn't log out and re login, both from TN, just thinking? BF/GF or hubby/wife?

    Anyway unless its a chronic problem that persists despite appropriate training there is no way I would say just get rid of the horse.

    I have had 2 horses that tried rearing more than once. After a little work neither horse ever attempted it again and it all worked out.
        08-07-2009, 06:49 PM
    I think he has two accounts. He said T.J at the end of it. That is what makes me think "HE" has two accounts
        08-07-2009, 06:56 PM
    I saw the TJ on both as well but still think possible even if remotely that its explained by a "couple" using same computer, just thinking of any reasonable explanation, perhaps OP will enlighten us, just can't think why someone would want to have two accounts for no reason.....
        08-07-2009, 07:07 PM
    Probably one acount to be his realself. And another to lie about something like "HE" is a girl and he lives on a farm(but doesnt). I know HER. She is one of my friends. She lives in MI, and has ONE horse named rusty
        08-08-2009, 07:14 AM
    Oh okay gotcha
        08-08-2009, 09:14 AM
    Ok, I don't get it. Why is it that every time a horse does something wrong, people see it as being a "bad horse"?. It is seen as something with a behavioral problem to be fixed because that horse isn't fitting into our daily schedule. I have worked "problem horses" for years, I have been on plenty of rearing horses, but not once have I been on one that was rearing to be bad. I have been on horses that rear because of buddy issues, because they are confused, because they are in pain, because they don't respect the persons ability, the list goes on. Basically, it all points to the same thing, rearing is their way of telling you something, and its not subtle. Chances are, most horses show you all of the subtle signs, but no one notices, so, they take it up a notch. They do the same thing we do, ask, tell, demand! Once they get to the demand point, someone has obviously ignored the ask and tell.

    Your first signs of a problem erupt long before the brunt force shows from the horse. In this case, the lack of focus and respect would show itself on the ground, in ways that many people wouldn't even pick up on. It would pop up further in the saddle, where the horse comes out with its own agenda. Remember, in a horses mind, that horse is always going to do whats best for it, first priority is safety, second is comfort. If the person can't provide this for the horse, then there is no way that the horse will give you all it can. Its not a matter of teaching the horse "don't do that or you will pay the consequences", its more a matter of showing them "I am the most capable of your protection and I have the tools to show you how to make yourself more physically comfortable". If the horses most secure place is with you, then these problems aren't going to be an issue.

    Now, if I had the OPs horse, I would start on the ground and figure out where the initial hole is, because even if we were to fix the rearing problem through "cause and affect", the source of the problem would still be there and just erupt into another crater somewhere else. Without seeing the horse, we have no idea of knowing what this is stemming from. Given that the horse is running back to the barn, I would probably go to lack of attention from the horses part which also means not just lack of respect, but lack of trust in the person. I would build my way up from there.

    If I were the OP, I would not sell the horse, but I would find professional help. I would want to be taught not just what the horse was doing wrong, but how I was influencing that and what I needed to change in myself to offer the horse what he needed. I always tell people, horses are always honest if you are willing to listen. Some horses will do what you want, ignoring any pain, just trying to please until they go lame. Some horses rebel, bucking, rearing, bolting, kicking, until they are labeled as difficult or dangerous, which they are neither, they are just the bold speakers of the horse world and refuse to compromise themselves.
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        08-08-2009, 10:29 AM
    Good post Flitterbug!
        08-08-2009, 11:42 AM
    The same thing happens to me alot! This might sound kind of mean, but it's totally effective. When your horse rears, give him a pop right between the ears. They don't expect it there. He'll try it again so just keep doing it! Soon enough, he'll stop rearing! It works every time for me, but every horse is different. Hope this helps!
        08-08-2009, 12:51 PM
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    I'd reccommend a good trainer. A while back when I hadn't a clue about horses, go figure I bought a rearer! :P Sent him to a trainer for a month and he quit. I know it's hard in this economy, but it'll be well worth it.

    For working on it yourself, try the whole 'one rein stop idea', yelling 'AG!' when he does it, and be aggressive. You can't just sit back and expect it to happen over-night.

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