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  • Rearing when asking for canter what could it be
  • I fell off my rearing horse now my back really hurts

 
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    05-03-2008, 05:27 PM
  #1
Showing
Rearing problem (& my frist fall off Maia!)

Yep, had my first "fall" off of Maia today.
It was a gorgeous day out so I decided to jump on her - only problem was, I didn't have my saddle out there with me, nor my snaffle bride - for some reason I had a curb bit bridle in my trunk, so I decided to use that; I've used it on many a horse before without problems, so why not? (I removed the curb strap)
Anyways, I jumped on her bareback (I've ridden her about 5 time bareback now) and walked around to warm up. I did some walk/trot transitions then settled into a nice trot, worked on neck-reining (she has no clue how to!) and slowing down to a jog - she's very comfortable at a jog!
Anyways, we were on the left rein so I asked her up to canter, and did a few laps of the field no problem, transitioned down and up a few times no problem.
I changed directions to the right, and it was a different story.
I asked her to canter and she did a few steps, and then slammed on the brakes - almost did a sliding stop, but heavy on the forehand, then popped her front end up and reared! Of course I got after her and kicked her forward, and she popped up again. Unfortunately I was bareback and so my immediate problem was staying on, not beating on her while she was up in the air.
Every time I asked her to canter, or got my balance forward over her wither, she reared. Every time. Not just a little hippity-hop either, but a full-blown striking rear, and a few times once she came down she bucked.
I was fine until she decided to rear in the middle of a circle; her back is slick with her summer coat, and I lost my balance when she slammed her hooves in the ground and became unseated when she reared up, so I swung my leg over and did an emergency dismount.. although I would have fallen if I hadn't decided to get off right then and there. I landed on my feet and gave her heck for throwing me off. I got on again and made her work hard, and got a few canter steps out of her - not many though. My back was hurting (and still is, I still don't know how I managed to land on my feet, I'm guessing it took a lot of twisiting though!) so I lunged her afterwards and made her canter both ways, which she was fine with.
(P.s. It wasn't the curb bit doing this; I had very light contact on my reins and did not accidentally yank on her mouth at all - that was my first thought with the first rear so I was very dilligent to leave her mouth alone; I have good soft hands to begin with, so it's not that.)

She's never done this before, mind I haven't been able to do much canter work with her.
I've dealt with rearing before, but none of it was this bad; she was rearing so high I was worried she was coming over backwards a few times.
I'd like some opinions and new ideas on how to deal with this. I will be riding her tomorrow with a saddle and seeing how she is now.

I'd like opinions on how to deal with rearing; I have my own little tricks, but you can never have too much ammo in your training kit!
     
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    05-03-2008, 06:31 PM
  #2
Showing
Wow, I'm glad you're okay!!
I don't have much experience with rearing because my horse never rears, LOL! But I'm sure others could help you. I do know, however, that you gotta keep your hands low.
     
    05-03-2008, 06:47 PM
  #3
Showing
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Originally Posted by PoptartShop
Wow, I'm glad you're okay!!
I don't have much experience with rearing because my horse never rears, LOL! But I'm sure others could help you. I do know, however, that you gotta keep your hands low.
Haha my hands were buried in mane trying to keep my balance forward to so I didn't pull her over backwards. (Plus it's nearly impossible to stay on bareback without holding onto mane when they're rearing that high!)
     
    05-03-2008, 06:51 PM
  #4
Showing
Yeah, lol since it was bareback it probably made it even more difficult!
     
    05-03-2008, 07:00 PM
  #5
Showing
Gosh JDI I'm glad your ok I can't help you out either, I have absolutely no experience with rearing except with my first horse when I was a kid. I'm sure I just fell off back then
     
    05-03-2008, 07:56 PM
  #6
Trained
Wow! Glad you're ok ;)

I don't have much to contribute because I've never dealt with rearing much. Jarred is the first one to rear on me consistently and I don't 100% know how to deal with that most of the time. I usually just try and get him to do a few small circles until he stops still then hold then reins and his head down. Its the only way I can stop him from going up again. If he's being really bratty I have to hold my hands down and flex him to the side. He can't go up like that. I always make him work when he does it though.

But that's just me :) I sometimes have to make it up as I go along when some things happen and I don't know what to do lol

P.s. Just a side note, possum doesnt do well bareback either. She's an angel under saddle but you hop on her bareback and she forgets all her manners and gets really cranky. Walk and trot she's not too bad but if I ask her to canter she does silly little bucks. I video taped myself one day to see if I was doing something when asking for the canter. I didnt seem to do anything to prompt that response but she really didnt like it at all. According to the guy that broke her she has never been ridden bareback before. Maybe it feels so different they don't like it.
     
    05-03-2008, 08:59 PM
  #7
Banned
I work with a 4 year old Paint mare and she loves to rear if I start correcting her for doing something bad (like stopping, not going or cutting in). I find that the minute she picks up her feet off the ground I take one rein and pull her head to the side...not far enough where it hurt her..but just enough to throw her off balance making her go back down.

A horse usually will stop rearing the minute they fell off balanced...It at least works for the horse's I've ridden that have reared up.
     
    05-03-2008, 11:09 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Hmm, recently I've been riding a stud..... he LOVES to rear..... what we do is when he's going up take ALL of the slack out of one rein and hold on (kinda like what Sonny said) except we don't flex his head around..... then if he doesn't come back down right away I smack him on the neck with the reins.... he's learned that when he goes up his mouth hurts.... he does it a lot less..... but if your afraid she might fall over be sure to lean forward.... and if you can't pull the rein hit her in the neck at least...... for me I found that kicking only makes it worse
     
    05-04-2008, 03:41 AM
  #9
Weanling
Re: Rearing problem (& my frist fall off Maia!)

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Originally Posted by JustDressageIt
Every time I asked her to canter, or got my balance forward over her wither, she reared. Every time.
This one bit made me wonder if it's maybe a physical thing as opposed to her just acting up. Were you wearing jeans? Maybe the seam of your jeans was digging into her spine? Are you slender with a bony butt? Maybe it's uncomfortable for her to canter with a rider bareback.

I'd say...see how she is tomorrow with a saddle. If she's fine, it must be something from the bareback event. Check her back for any sore areas, then try her again bareback. Maybe she was just having a bad day!

As for general tips in the battle against rearing...I've found that basically any time a horse has reared on me, it has been out of frustration. If I ask for something twice, in the same manner, and get the same result (rearing), I must be asking wrong. I then either ask a different way, or just move onto something else until I research a new way to ask. (Or I just realize that I was asking him to do something completely stupid in the first place!)
     
    05-04-2008, 10:59 AM
  #10
Yearling
Re: Rearing problem (& my frist fall off Maia!)

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Originally Posted by Equina
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDressageIt
Every time I asked her to canter, or got my balance forward over her wither, she reared. Every time.
This one bit made me wonder if it's maybe a physical thing as opposed to her just acting up.
When a horse canters almost all their weight is shifted back on the huanches, perhaps when you ask her canter saddled, you do not hunch over, and because you hunch over bareback it throws her off balance and she panics or becomes frusterated. Try sitting straight and asking for it, or even leaning back a little.
     

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