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    04-02-2012, 09:04 PM
  #41
Foal
Tiffany Thank you for your encouraging words. I have in fact worked her today and we started with just some things that I knew she would do without problems and then we went into some forward motion. About 20 minutes in I could see her demeanor begin to change and she began laying her ears back and shaking her head then she did a half-hearted rear to which I responded with encouragement for her to continue her forward movement in the form of a firm word and moving toward her. She continued on and didn't attempt to rear again but she did try to come close to me and crowd my space. I popped her shoulder with my handy stick and then sent her out again. She continued on for me and then we ended well and I put her up. I will work her again tomorrow and hopefully we will have continued success.
     
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    04-02-2012, 11:12 PM
  #42
Foal
Aggressive... striking... rearing.. the challenges here go way beyond rearing. This filly needs a whole lot of basic ground/longe training before you ride her. Fillies, by the way tend to be about a year behind the boys, so a filly that's coming up on 3 is really about 2-2 1/2 physically, mentally and emotionally! She needs to be mentally engaged and she needs to move forward and she needs to keep all 4 feet on the ground. I have an exercise that I use with horses like her- it is so simple, you won't believe that it can work well, but others have called it "Leslie's magic barrel pattern" because it works wonders. Here's how it goes: Set up 4 barrels about 20 feet apart, making a square. Lead her in a cloverleaf pattern around the 4 barrels in the same direction until she settles into the pattern. Then direct her through the pattern, you are on one side (inside) of the barrel- direct her all the way around each barrel ( 1 1/4 turn each time around) asking her to look at the barrel by tipping her nose towards it and then lead her (you are on the inside of the square) to the next barrel. Do this pattern in the same direction over and over again. She will focus on the pattern, focus on the barrels, focus on you... and she will be engaged and will button down. From here, you ask her to walk circles around all 4 barrels, expanding the work area, but staying near the barrels. You will return to the pattern often to focus her mind, keep her feet settled. You will do both sides, and you will add this to your teaching sessions for as long as it takes for her to mentally and physically settle down. I have used this on very aggressive horses- works wonders. I've used this with super-flighty, can't keep 4 feet on the ground horses... works wonders. I've used it with very sensitive, distracted babies... works wonders. If you need more info, want me to send an illustration of the pattern- contact me privately and I'll send it to you.
     
    04-03-2012, 08:02 AM
  #43
Weanling
Horse Happy...perhaps you should start your own thread as it appears you have problems you also need advice about.

Rearing is a response to either fear, or a horse who has been asked to do something and is unable to understand how to do what they are being asked, and on very rare occassions because of a temper tantrum (young babies who don't quite get... the human is the boss and I must listen),and in even rarer instances because a horse has no respect for the handler.
I think to properly figure out how to stop the rearing one should first figure out why the horse is rearing in the first place. Almost every reason for rearing should be treated differently, depending on the circumstances.
Example: Making a horse go too close to an object that they greatly fear may cause the horse to rear....trust issues develop, and you now have an even bigger problem if you simply try to make the horse go forward without addressing the true issue first.

In your case I have a tendancy to believe your horse has trust and respect issues and perhaps more ground work, with exercises that relaxe, desensitize and allow your horse to feel comfortable with your company. Ground work basics, bending, obstacles etc. at a slow and patient speed might be a great place to start.
     
    04-03-2012, 08:42 AM
  #44
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Leslie Nichols    
Aggressive... striking... rearing.. the challenges here go way beyond rearing. This filly needs a whole lot of basic ground/longe training before you ride her. Fillies, by the way tend to be about a year behind the boys, so a filly that's coming up on 3 is really about 2-2 1/2 physically, mentally and emotionally! She needs to be mentally engaged and she needs to move forward and she needs to keep all 4 feet on the ground. I have an exercise that I use with horses like her- it is so simple, you won't believe that it can work well, but others have called it "Leslie's magic barrel pattern" because it works wonders. Here's how it goes: Set up 4 barrels about 20 feet apart, making a square. Lead her in a cloverleaf pattern around the 4 barrels in the same direction until she settles into the pattern. Then direct her through the pattern, you are on one side (inside) of the barrel- direct her all the way around each barrel ( 1 1/4 turn each time around) asking her to look at the barrel by tipping her nose towards it and then lead her (you are on the inside of the square) to the next barrel. Do this pattern in the same direction over and over again. She will focus on the pattern, focus on the barrels, focus on you... and she will be engaged and will button down. From here, you ask her to walk circles around all 4 barrels, expanding the work area, but staying near the barrels. You will return to the pattern often to focus her mind, keep her feet settled. You will do both sides, and you will add this to your teaching sessions for as long as it takes for her to mentally and physically settle down. I have used this on very aggressive horses- works wonders. I've used this with super-flighty, can't keep 4 feet on the ground horses... works wonders. I've used it with very sensitive, distracted babies... works wonders. If you need more info, want me to send an illustration of the pattern- contact me privately and I'll send it to you.
Kay Blandford(barrel racer) has been using this method for quite some time to teach young horses to focus on the barrel, turn perfect circles without burning them out on the actual pattern.

I have used it as well with success on focusing a horse.
     
    04-03-2012, 09:07 AM
  #45
Yearling
I'd address the root of the problem directly. Most of the rearers I've had were fixed quickly and pretty easily. They were responding to pressure on their head. Think of a horse that's walking around with a halter and lead rope. The lead rope is dragging the ground. Horse steps on the rope and what happens? It's head goes up and if it has to, it rears. We have to fix the response, and to do this, we have to trigger it. You can do it by "bridling" them up, or pulling down on the lead rope from the ground. It doesn't take long to condition them to soften and give instead of bracing and rearing
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    04-03-2012, 09:30 AM
  #46
Foal
Thank you Annie and Amazin. I was contemplating just last evening how to better work my mare and I pulled out my basics and began reading. I will work more with sensitizing and desensitizing and with general bflr so that she gets to respecting me more. I think that is the root cause, along with general youthful temper tantrum which Annie mentioned. She does not seem fearful at all, just put out at having to work. Also, "in season" to add to the mix. I will start my own thread. Thanks for your great advice!
     

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