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        10-31-2011, 11:07 PM
      #11
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    Yes! Horses have to be trained to tie and must stand quietly in any situation to be useful for any career.

    No! This is NOT a big deal. It is only being poorly dealt with.

    You can only tie a problem horse with a good, strong nylon lead-rope and it has to have a swivel snap. We have 3/4 inch nylon ropes with 5 inch bull snaps that have a good swivel in them.

    If you use a tree limb, it should be at least 8-10 inches in diameter where you tie the rope and let it hang down. An ideal place would be a big over-hanging limb that is 10-15 feet off of the ground. Then, a 5/8 to 3/4 inch nylon rope it tied solidly to the limb with the snap end hanging down to a point about 4 1/2 feet above the ground. The rope would ideally be 8-10 feet away from the trunk of the tree.

    The horse's halter should be snug and fitted well above his nostrils. There should be only 1 rope on the horse and there should be no way that he can get into position where the swivel cannot turn around freely as he makes little circles under the tree.

    When you have a place like this to tie a horse to a tree, then LEAVE HIM ALONE. Do not put a second rope on him. Do not stay where he can see you. The object is for him to learn to stop pulling, fighting, worrying or getting upset. The object is for him to learn to accept standing quietly all by himself.

    This is a valuable lesson that any trained horse should know. A horse has to stand tied to a trailer at any 'haul-in' show, rodeo, roping, team penning, sorting, cutting, or even a dressage show. Heck, every horse brought to the local two bit County Fair has to stand tied most of the day waiting for classes.
         
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        11-01-2011, 08:47 AM
      #12
    Foal
    Build the wall taller so he can't get stuck. He'll never stop throwing a hissy fit if every time he does you go back there and coddle him. Like most of the others said you don't want him hanging himself, but this is a case of tough love and you have to let him figure it out. He's basically throwing a tantrum probably because it has worked for him before.
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        11-01-2011, 09:53 AM
      #13
    mls
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Cherie    
    Since you released him when he climbed the wall, you just taught him to climb the wall.

    Perhaps you missed the part where the horse was stuck?!

    Barrel addict - how does he react in other situations? Hitching post, trailer (in and outside), cross tie? I have a theory but would like more information before I offer advice.
         
        11-01-2011, 10:18 AM
      #14
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    He should have been tied right back up. To not do so, was a teaching moment for the horse -- it just taught the wrong thing.
         
        11-07-2011, 12:30 PM
      #15
    Foal
    We had a trainer come out, this guy was perfect, he is the right mixture of "out west cowboy training" and a little more soft training, he saw what the horse did, hobbled him, long story short this horse put his feet through the windows (not glass!) that are like 12 feet high, or more, and he crashed into the wall, a bunch of crap, he finally fell on the ground and just laid there, a lot of people might say its cruel, whatever, this horse needed to learn his lesson and no matter how much he hurt himself he never quit! He has severe anxiety, when hobbled he woudl rear so hard he smashed his legs into his face several times, just horrible to watch a horse do this to himself. When he finally stopped and stood still he got to come off of the wall. The trainer taught me a lot of ground stuff to work on, and the owner of the horse offered to send him to this trainer for a month. The trainer said to let me work with him for a week and see if he improves (I am not yet the owner of this horse, she is giving him away and I am planning on taking him)

    I have been working with him for almost a week now, he ground ties very well and I tie him every day on the wall with a longer lead so he doesn't feel so claustrophobic (this and anxiety in corners is his big thing) He is doing excellent! He hasn't pawed or reared since I started, and he paced for 55 min the first day I did this, he came off the wall when he stood patiently for 20 seconds, now each day I am tying him shorter until he is where he should be, then slowly move him to the corner, he now can just tie on the longer line and just stands there, no pacing or anything, its working great!

    Check out the new post under critiques and let me know what you think of him!
         

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