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    06-01-2012, 06:18 PM
If she is rearing and you can't get her untied in time, my advice is to NOT TIE HER until she can be tied safely. There are safety ties (velcro) that will give under the right pressure, as well as a number of other things you can do. Tying a horse with a rearing problem is asking for disaster.
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    06-01-2012, 07:21 PM
Just use a long rope through a tie ring, but don't tie it off. Leave the end of the rope trailing away to the side and lying on the ground. If at any time the horse tries to back away, just pick up the rope and take up a bit of slack till the horse stops. Then ask it to step up again and then continue as before.

When the horse is more settled, tie the rope off but leave the end training as before, so it's a simple thing to pick up the end of the rope and release the knot if necessary.

Tie the knot by putting a loop of rope through the ring, twisting it a turn and taking the long end through the loop formed. Pull tight from the end nearest the horse, and leave the end trailing as before. The knot can be released by simply pulling the long end, and the rope will drop away from the ring as the knot releases. This way you don't have to struggle to get the rope through the ring or tie string whilst the horse pulls.
    06-01-2012, 09:12 PM
There is no correlation between a horse being tied and being handled.
Saddlebag, I agree that the two are related only as a matter of training. My point was that the horse uses rearing as a method of dealing with an uncomfortable situation. If the horse does it in one place that it is uncomfortable, I'd be concerned that the horse will do it in another situation that is uncomfortable.

A last resort we used for hubby's gelding was a "be nice" halter. He would stand tied for hours, then suddenly blow up and rear back for no discernable reason, other than maybe being bored. The halter had knobs on the inside where it ran behind his ears - when he pulled back, it hurt. He didn't do it but once after we used that halter. And no, he didn't hurt himself - his lead rope was tied to an innertube. We wanted the "be nice" halter to get his attention, not cause an injury.
Dee -- I like that. I had a mare like that. She'd be fine, just fine for the longest time and then one day she'd just blow up. Then fine again for weeks/months and then blow up. A halter like that would have been handy if I had ever gotten to a point where I thought she might be safe to haul somewhere...

DRichmond -- My thought was that a rearing horse should be tied higher than average, but after thinking about it, maybe the trick here is to encourage her to keep her head low and relaxed. This would also limit how high she can rear. I revoke my earlier statement.

To the OP - DR's comments about retraining to be tied is valid. It's just that you're working with a full grown mare, not a foal. And she already knows she can get away when she pulls. So far, I have always been of the mind to tie securely so that no matter what that horse can not break free. The halter won't break, the rope won't break, the post won't break... If she gets release at all when she pulls, that's teaching her the wrong thing. She should get release when she stops fighting. There is no need for you to have control over the rope to give her release. When she stops pulling and steps forward, she gives her own release.
    06-02-2012, 12:39 AM
The individual who posted stated this was her first horse, and I am going to just presume an experience/knowledge level and give ideas for a gentle approach to the issue based not only on my own preferences for turning a horse's fear into a desire, but also an approach which will be pleasant and likely far safer for the new owner, as well as for the horse.

Although I agree that there are instances where horses may repeat behavior simply because they have learned it works, usually self preservation is the priority item and whether or not it's an "I can get away with it" is a matter of interpretation, I suppose, since each horse and circumstance is unique. With an older mare whose history we don't know anything about, and an owner who states this is her first horse, I hope anything that any of us have suggested will be helpful for the two of them. It sure is difficult to help from a computer, isn't it?
    06-04-2012, 01:13 PM
Thank you for all your advice. I've heard of using a rope around the belly to solve the problem, so I may try that as well as the tie ring. In the mean time I've just been twisting the rope around itself.

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