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    10-29-2009, 05:43 PM
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Foal
Question Rebringing up 7y.o. mare

Hey. I wanna ask you for some help. I am not much advanced rider and not horse trainer at all. Now I have a chance to ride pony mare, 7 years old. She's well trained, but, I would use word: "home-made"... She is just pony for joy, not competitions and so on... So, she turns right, if you ask her to turn right, but only by pulling the reins. She stops, but, again, only with pulling reins. The problem is that her owner doesn't have any money to put her into real training to some proffessional rider. I am her last chance. I wanna teach her how to use her back, how to turn, stop and so on without reins,... I wanna make her work with her back, make some muscles,... you know what ;)
I now try to teach her to stop, or to slow down only by my voice, and trying to ride on loose or at least long reins, turning on my weight and legs. About stopping, I can see a tiny improvement, but only at the corral, not in the terrain. She sees field and she rushes out... I am also trying to calm her down firstly only with my voice, but she seems not to hear, so I have to pull the reins... Yeah, she makes no probelms with stopping. She always stops if I ak her to. But I don't like riding this way... I know I am not the best man for it, but there is really no other chance.
I thought about lounging on solid chambon, later gogue. Cavalettes, and some tiny jumps. Teaching only on voice (walk, trot, canter, stop,...)
Some tips for me, please? I know I can go away and take some lessons anywhere else, but Lisa seems talented she enjoys riding, jumping and she has some "pep" (I hope my dictionary doesn't pull my leg ) to go forward. I think If she had been raised up in regular stable, she could have been wonderful pony for jumping and dressage even for small children.
I was introduced to her with words: "Be careful. She kicks at people she doesn't know," and these kind of sentences. And really, our first meetings she only shrieked at me, I couldn't even groom her. Under saddle she was a bit wild, but OK to ride... And now? I know her for three months and she stands still while grooming, gives me all 4 hooves to clean, takes bridle with no problems and on our way home from trail, she isn't wildly cantering only to get home-the sooner, the better... I think I've done good work, but now, I am out of ideas...
     
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    10-29-2009, 05:54 PM
  #2
Trained
A horse will be how you expect them to be. If you consistently ride the way you do the horse will figure it out and eventually you will find that when you turn your body she is already turning and when you slow your seat she stays under you. Stick with it and you will get what you want from her.
     
    10-29-2009, 05:59 PM
  #3
Started
Well firstly, welcome to the forum!

Secondly, good for you for giving this mare a chance to learn the right ways!

It sounds like she has a good start - all horses start somewhere.

I would say start by combining two things - the aids she knows and the ones she doesn't. Say you want to teach her to turn using your seat and legs. Start by asking the way you WANT her to understand (seat and legs) - she won't know what you want, so add what she DOES understand (reins) without taking away the aid you're trying to teach her.

This way, she associates one aid with another. Keep practicing and asking her until you can eventually take away the unwanted aid (i.e. Pulling reins to turn.)

Hope that helps, and makes sense!
     
    10-29-2009, 06:06 PM
  #4
Trained
Personally, I would go without the Chambon and Degouge for lunging and instead use side-reins or stretchy draw-reins. In my personal experience with the Chambon and Degouge they have both caused considerable neck trauma in quite a few horses.

As far as for the riding, if you teach she will learn!
     
    10-29-2009, 06:07 PM
  #5
Foal
LeahKathleen: I use this "princip" now-to connect aids she wants and doesn't know. For example with stopping- when I started, I made her trot, then I started to say "how, slow" and, trying also to use seat, and then, after few seconds used reins... I am glad someone had the same idea as I did... And how to teach her to start use her spine? I have no experiences how to bring up a horse, only with riding. But I always sat on "ready" horses, never on green ones...
     
    10-29-2009, 06:14 PM
  #6
Started
The side reins that Anabel suggested will help her start to move in a correct frame.

For now I would say work on aids. Once she is responding to the correct aids, you'll be able to work with her more on correctly using her body.

Anabel probably has some better advice on that one than I do. :]
     
    10-29-2009, 06:25 PM
  #7
Foal
Leah:
Thank you. So, firstly teach her how to react on my aids and then teach her to pace from the backward-using back legs and spine, and accept bridle( I hope you understand, my dictionary doesn't include equestrian words...)
     
    10-29-2009, 06:36 PM
  #8
Started
I understand completely. Where are you from?

I would say yes, teach her to respond to your aids first. I don't think I could explain very well how to ask her to move from her hind end. I can do it, I just can't put it into words very well.

I know that Anabel could explain it better. I'll direct some our members who could explain it better to this thread. :]
     
    10-29-2009, 07:17 PM
  #9
Foal
Leah: Thank you million times :) And really sorry for my horrible english explanation, I really couldn't find any serious dictionary with equestrian staff... :-/ Time to write to czech publishers?
     
    10-29-2009, 09:36 PM
  #10
Started
Your English is quite good, honestly. I had no trouble at all understand what you were asking. :]

I'll see who I can get to come help explain how to ask her to work from her hind end.
     

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