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    11-06-2011, 01:52 AM
  #1
Foal
Question Refusal to ride further than barn

Hi,
I have an appaloosa gelding, he is very good when riding except when I try to ride him down the driveway of the farm past where his pole barn is where he is boarded. He used to have another horse with him and would usually walk past this point if he was with that other horse. Now that horse is gone and now that i'm riding him on my own, whenever we try to get past that point, he stops, backs up, and/or turns to the side. No matter how much I kick him or get him to go, he won't. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Amy
     
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    11-06-2011, 02:13 AM
  #2
Showing
If I was riding, then I would either use the ends of my split reins or a crop/whip. Every time he stopped and refused to move forward and ignored the lighter cues to go, then whip him hard until he moves in the direction you want him to go. If you leave enough welts on his butt, he'll figure out that going forward is much easier than fighting to stay close to the barn.

Each time he stops, escalate your cues quickly: squeeze legs, bump legs and smooch, whap him hard on the ass and keep whapping harder and harder until he moves forward. If he tries to spin around and go back the other way, then turn him back (don't turn 180* though, if he turns to his left and faces the opposite direction trying to go home, then you need to turn him to the right to "undo" the turn he did for himself) and go to whipping again.

Don't worry about hurting him, it might sting him a bit but there will be no lasting effects other than him learning to move forward when you tell him to, no matter what. The instant that he moves forward, release all pressure...stop bumping with legs, stop smooching, stop whipping and just let him go along. If he stops again, then start all over. It will take time, repetition, and diligence on your part. If you only have a limited amount of time to ride, then don't do anything that will start a fight that you might not be able to finish before you get off.

He's spoiled and he's got your number, you're going to have to get tough with him to make any progress at all.
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    11-06-2011, 02:30 AM
  #3
Foal
Take a crop to his behind!!! I had a horse exactly like this. I literally made him do sharp circles everytime he tried to stop when I took him away from the barn. We eventually were able to go around the neighborhood without doing any. However, it wasn't enough. Eventually I took a crop o his butt. He learned very fast and listened
     
    11-06-2011, 07:57 AM
  #4
Green Broke
Horses well beating your horse is one way, but it works way better and doesnt damage the trust as mmuch to do the same thing you would do for any other task,
Make what you want easy, make what they want hard. When you come down the drive and he wants to go to the barn let him, walk up to the barn then get off hook a lead line the lunge him at a trot and canter for about 10 minutes. Get back on go back down the drive, if he turns towards the barn let him, go to the barn get off, lunge till his tounge is hanging out. Repeat. I've never seen a horse take more than a few times to get over it,
     
    11-06-2011, 08:37 AM
  #5
Green Broke
Have you tried to lead him on the ground past that point? He may have insecurity or trust issues where the other horse was his "security blanket".

I like/do what Joe4d said. Another thing you could try is push his "safety" zone. Get him to go as far as you can the take him back a little towards the barn. Return to where he stopped going forward and try to get him to ga a little farther and retreat again. Repeat repeat and repeat until he can keep going
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    11-06-2011, 01:21 PM
  #6
Foal
thanks!

Thank you everyone for your help! The only thing I am concerned about is that my horse is not very used to a crop so I'm afraid that when I do whip he will bolt/buck. I have been thrown many times but as of lately I have got him calmed down to where he trusts me and is getting used to these new things (since I have only had him for about a year and a half). I don't want to go backwards where he doesn't trust me.
     
    11-09-2011, 05:32 PM
  #7
Foal
This is an interesting topic, as one of my horses has similar issues. She is 15, I got her at 5, and her former "career" was a rodeo bronc. Yes, the real thing, she's even branded for it. Story is, she was taken out of the bucking string because she quit bucking out. I totally believe this! I sent her out for 30 days, got her back, really nice to ride, occasionally planted herself, but with consistent riding, she was pretty good. Now, fast forward...she hasn't been ridden in about 4 years, due to foaling, time, she's not my show horse, etc. She's just part of the family. I got on her, and she is as calm as can be, like no time went by. BUT, back to her old self, CAN'T get her out of the driveway to go for a ride. Keep in mind, I can't smack her, as this is what they do in the rodeos to encourage the bucking. (spur the shoulders, etc.) (I've seen the results of smacking her, not pretty) So, try getting off, leading her, NOPE, feet glued to the ground. Giving her spankings on her butt with end of reins, worked 2 times, now she kicks forward at the reins,whip, whatever I use. She won't even follow another horse. I literally got off and DRAGGED her, with my husband riding in front, my mom in back to encourage her to move. (she's not a kicker, so no worries there.) I'm a big fan of groundwork, all of mine grow up learning this to perfection. No, lunging her doesn't work, she will charge you. With this mare, she is respectful, as sweet as can be, but just won't go. So, I hope you don't have one as stubborn as mine, and be careful. :)
     
    11-09-2011, 08:13 PM
  #8
Green Broke
HUSAngel: They also use flank straps to get horses to buck. So we shouldn't use back cinches on them? If you feel you can't spank her, to me you are treating her like a rescue horse. If you treat a horse like a rescue horse, it will stay a rescue horse. If you treat it like a normal horse, it will become a normal horse. I'm not saying to beat your horse but you can get a horse that had been beat or abused to where they don't flip out if you need to give it a smack.
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    11-09-2011, 10:06 PM
  #9
Green Broke
She charges you,, but is respectful ? Ummm I don't think so,
You need some basic groundwork leadership techniques.
     
    11-09-2011, 10:17 PM
  #10
Showing
I use a 12' stout rope. If a horse comes at me I smack it on the neck with the rope as hard as I can. It turns the horse away. Use a knotted halter because as the horse turns it may try to leave so brace yourself for when it hits the end of the lead. Usually the horse does a fast turn when it hits the knots and will face you. Just let her relax then carry on as tho nothing happened. A dumb one tried it twice and the results were the same. She quickly changed her attitude. If you don't have a stout rope then use the lunge whip - it's you or her. She gets a welt or you wind up trampled. It's your call.
     

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