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    04-23-2009, 10:33 PM
  #1
Foal
Refuses to lift her feet! Help!

One of my mares has developed issues when it comes to her feet. This has not always been the case. She use to be perfect. I never had to worry how she was going to act for the farrier, but now I can't even clean her feet out. She will not give me her feet, she kicks out, dances around. This has been going on for a little while now. I don't get it. Something has happened. There was a couple of times the farrier trimmed her when I wasn't able to make it, but he never once said there was a problem. He always said how good she was. I trusted him and he was a friend of ours. I have since been using a different farrier with my other horses and I really like his ways. He is not able to touch her feet without her exploding. I have to get her feet trimmed. I can touch her everywhere, just can't lift any of them. I have been rewarding when she "tries" , brushing, lunging, and desensitizing. She doesn't seem to be in pain anywhere. Should I sedate her to at least get her feet trimmed?
     
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    04-24-2009, 07:38 AM
  #2
Weanling
I would venture a guess that somewhere along the line this mare was asked to pick up a foot and refused and then wasnt made to lift it which can start a really bad problem.

To me its like catching a horse. Once I go to catch one I do not stop until the horse is caught. Because if I stop and give up I have just taught the horse not to be caught. Sets a bad precedent.

I would start over teaching her to lift her feet but you cannot stop until she does it. Always end on a good note.

I really hate to see you sedate her just to be trimmed because again you are not teaching her you are just covering up the problem and probably making it worse

One other thought is maybe she has thrush or something making them sore. But I really think its a bad habit that got out of hand
     
    04-24-2009, 08:31 AM
  #3
Foal
I would suggest that you take a long, soft lead rope and place it around the fetlock area. Be careful where you place the clip so that it doesn't hurt the horse. For the life of me I can't remember if it goes in the front or back. It's been years since I had to do this.

But, once you get going you will figure out where that clip goes.

After you have it on stand at an angle far enough away from the horse so that you are out of the kicking zone but where you are still able to lift the foot up with just a little pressure from the rope.

If the horse goes to kicking, moving, backing etc stay with the horse best you can until the horse gives ANY sign of relaxing and release. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Do on all four feet. Also, do not tie your horse up, hopefully you will have an enclosed area someplace)

I had to do this on a horse I just bought years ago. He was only ok for me to pick out his feet but went nutso with the farrier. He would kick, bite, and try to get away like he was on fire! My farrier had to twitch him, sad to say.

And the next few times I did try Quietex, but that did no good.

I promised myself that he would never be twitched again so I set to work and tried the above.

It only took one lesson for him to figure it out and get better. He did need a few more lighter lessons, and had to get some history of trust in there, but was MUCH better after that first lesson.

He became much better for the farrier, not perfect, but manageable. I did have to ask the farrier to take his time with him, to greet him, to rub him a bit and to take a few seconds after each hoof to again reassure the horse that he was a friend.

After a few times of this the farrier no longer had any problems. In fact, my farrier said that he never thought that he would ever be able to do this horse without the help of a twitch or calming agent. (By the way, I think that the quietex did nothing)

I too wouldn't rule out any pain issue. It's possible that the horse has a bad back or something on those lines that should be looked into.
     
    04-24-2009, 12:22 PM
  #4
Yearling
Have you considered she may have a physical problem? This sudden change may be due to pain.
     
    04-24-2009, 12:36 PM
  #5
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Horsegma    
I would suggest that you take a long, soft lead rope and place it around the fetlock area. Be careful where you place the clip so that it doesn't hurt the horse. For the life of me I can't remember if it goes in the front or back. It's been years since I had to do this.

But, once you get going you will figure out where that clip goes.

After you have it on stand at an angle far enough away from the horse so that you are out of the kicking zone but where you are still able to lift the foot up with just a little pressure from the rope.

If the horse goes to kicking, moving, backing etc stay with the horse best you can until the horse gives ANY sign of relaxing and release. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Do on all four feet. Also, do not tie your horse up, hopefully you will have an enclosed area someplace)

I had to do this on a horse I just bought years ago. He was only ok for me to pick out his feet but went nutso with the farrier. He would kick, bite, and try to get away like he was on fire! My farrier had to twitch him, sad to say.

And the next few times I did try Quietex, but that did no good.

I promised myself that he would never be twitched again so I set to work and tried the above.

It only took one lesson for him to figure it out and get better. He did need a few more lighter lessons, and had to get some history of trust in there, but was MUCH better after that first lesson.

He became much better for the farrier, not perfect, but manageable. I did have to ask the farrier to take his time with him, to greet him, to rub him a bit and to take a few seconds after each hoof to again reassure the horse that he was a friend.

After a few times of this the farrier no longer had any problems. In fact, my farrier said that he never thought that he would ever be able to do this horse without the help of a twitch or calming agent. (By the way, I think that the quietex did nothing)

I too wouldn't rule out any pain issue. It's possible that the horse has a bad back or something on those lines that should be looked into.

She's right. Use the rope around the foot. It's gentle and you arent in harms way of getting kicked. I've trained quite a few horses that wont pick up their feet or have issues picking up their feet using that and havent had any problems.
     
    04-26-2009, 11:40 AM
  #6
Foal
Thank you for all your advice. I will try a rope and see where that gets us. I never wanted to use sedation if I didn't have to and it wasn't to "cover up" the initial problem. Over grown and neglected feet can do damage in them selves. We are continuing daily to work through it. Thanks again.
     
    04-26-2009, 12:52 PM
  #7
Foal
Another thing you should try is with the front feet if you stand to the side of them you will not get kicked... when trying to pick up her foot, if you can lean into her, get her weight off that foot and grab a little of the hair on the bottom of her foot... when you lift her leg up lift it really high.. almost touching her ... its harder for a horse to slam their leg down when its lifted high... but only do it if she starts to freak out... hold it until she calms down... this is also best done on cross ties so there is less movement back and forth and forward backward. Only reward her if she lets you pick up her leg, and lets you hold it for awhile... if you drop her leg as soon as you pick it up she will learn that she can dominate... well it sounds as if she already has...
     

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