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    01-23-2013, 06:25 PM
  #31
Weanling
Once you have ruled out pain (it does sounds like a pain issue), one thing to think about is if anything in your riding has changed. It sounds like you ride him often and hard; sometimes if you practice something too much it becomes drilling, and you can make the horse sour to that activity. You have only had him five months it sounds like, if before he wasn't doing much and all of a sudden he has an attitude issue, could it have been building up? Are you trying to do too much too fast? Drilling and pushing the horse too much can cause muscle soreness and cause him to become mentally burnt out. I would take a step back and see if anything has changed in your riding; are you asking for harder movents or more collection? Are you doing more "running" as you put it? He might just be tired and sore and trying to tell you. Best of luck figuring this out!
     
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    01-23-2013, 06:34 PM
  #32
Yearling
I had something like this happen last summer.

I was at camp, and riding a 4 year old QH mare. She was trying to lay down while I was saddling, but I would just move her, and she would be fine. Next, I got up on her in the arena, and she would walk and trot nicely. But then, when we would do turns, she would get ancy and stiff. I just blew it past me, as I though, along with the counsellors, it was because she was young, and only green broke.

Then, she started to stop. She would not go forward, and when I would boot her as hard as I could, she would bolt forward, and try to buck me off. Then she would just stop. Next she wouldn't even do that, she would back up.

Eventually we backed into a corner, and she took me threw a fence, breaking it, and making me go flying, and when she landed, it was on me (one of her hooves landed on my leg)

It turns out she was in pain, she was trying to tell me that she was hurting, and that was the only way she could. Her leg was swollen, and she had a cut on it, not even thinking, I did not check her over before riding, neither did the counsellors.

I would check your horse out again, otherwise, he might do the same as this horse did to me...
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    01-24-2013, 12:19 AM
  #33
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Ashsunnyeventer    
Sort of the same thing happened to me with my 4YO mare. She started fine, but after a few minutes of working, she would stop and refuse to move. I'd kick her or tap her with the whip (she is usually really sensitive) but she'd just kick and turn to look at me. She never really pinned her ears, but always looked annoyed. The first two times she did this, I got off and walked her around and gave her a couple days off. I was convinced it was pain of some sort. The vet found nothing wrong with her. Neither did the chiropracter, farrier or saddle fitter. Eventually she stopped doing it with less difficult work, less circles and trying to get her hind end engaged. I did a Stephen Bradley clinic a few weeks ago. We were working on gymnastics and towards the end, my mare just stopped and balked like she used to. Stephen got a crop and hit her so hard. I've never seen him hit a horse before and I've NEVER seen a horse hit that hard before. She had a swollen line from the whip on her flank and she was shaking. I was shocked, but he only had to hit her once and then she was an angel the rest of the ride.

I don't know if a good whack is what your horse needs, and there are probably other ways to get around this problem. If you want to try just one whack, you won't be able to get a hard enough hit from on top of the horse. Someone on the ground needs to get after your horse. My mare was completely fine and she wasn't sore or scared of anyone else afterwards.

Moral of the story- Your horse is probably pushing your buttons like mine (since the vet didn't find anything). My mare got stubborn when the work was too hard. Think about it- you were doing exercises that required balance and muscle. If your horse doesn't have enough strength (especially becouse he is young), he might just say "no" when he gets tired. Then, it becomes a habit because they know they won't have to do the hard work if they stop.

This was what worked for me, but if you don't think your horse will handle the hit well, or you're not comfortable hitting your horse DON'T DO IT. Find a trainer to help you work through it. It might just be a phase like it was for my mare; just don't let it become a habit. Good Luck!
Like Clinton Anderson says, one good whack is better than 100 nagging taps....... when I first started to take my mare out by herself a few years ago she would do the same thing......I finally got off her and got a small branch and gave her a whack, I could see her watching me out of her one eye LOL "yeah and what are you going to do about it"......well she found out I was going to whack her (made more sound than anything), after that I never had a problem with her.....
     

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