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post #1 of 65 Old 07-13-2009, 09:39 PM Thread Starter
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Resisent Free Trained Horses, HELP ME?!

The horses I work with are trained with resisence free training which means the horse is never harmed or hurt in its training, well I need help i'm afraid to saddle one horse as soon as you go on the side to tighten his cinch he's ready to bite you, what can I do to fix this habit?
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post #2 of 65 Old 07-13-2009, 09:42 PM
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Is it just a bad habit,or something else like him being sore or wrong fit tack

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post #3 of 65 Old 07-13-2009, 11:34 PM
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What do you normally do when the horses act up? What has worked previously?

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I'd guess the horse is probably being hurt, despite your good intentions. Check out tack, back, other potential issues... Balance International have a lot of great info on their site regarding *comfortable* saddle fit.

Assuming there is no physical prob, or you've rectified it, I would use approach & retreat & positive reinforcement, to teach him to *happily* accept the saddling process.

*But* I would not be uncomfortable with *instant* punishment/negative reinforcement either. While I'd aim to train in such a way that it was likely not necessary, if I thought that biting was going to be likely, I'd strap a brush, rough mat or something spikey around the likliest part of my anatomy, so that I could go about my business & if he bit me, he'd cause discomfort *to himself* as opposed to me punishing him directly & after the event.

If he's fine being saddled, until it's time to do up the girth, you might start the 'retraining' there, or go back as far as necessary, if he's not fully comfortable & confident with prior steps.
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The horses I work with are trained with resisence free training which means the horse is never harmed or hurt in its training, well I need help i'm afraid to saddle one horse as soon as you go on the side to tighten his cinch he's ready to bite you, what can I do to fix this habit?
Don't saddle the horse anymore and tell the resistant free trainers to fix him.
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well, I use to pads, a liner and a proffesional choice pad...he always cranks around at attempts to bite me while im tightening the cinch(girth)...i've tryed scratching and making it a good experiance and that seemed to help so he didnt crank around but he still jerked his head up but he didnt come around with his teeth out so that's a plus :]
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What is resistance free training?

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What is resistance free training?
To quote the OP:

The horses I work with are trained with resisence free training which means the horse is never harmed or hurt in its training,
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post #9 of 65 Old 07-14-2009, 09:26 AM
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The horses I work with are trained with resisence free training which means the horse is never harmed or hurt in its training,
I read that, my question is how does it differ from "regular" training (that isn't abuse)?

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well, I use to pads, a liner and a proffesional choice pad...
Is that all? You should add a pillow.

Look, the horse is in pain. Stop saddling him, stop riding him and tell these resistant free trainers to get him fixed so you don't need; two pads, a liner and a professional choice pad. And a saddle that fits would help too.
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