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post #11 of 13 Old 04-19-2013, 10:45 PM
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I guess I am looking at this from a beginner/recent beginner perspective, as an adult learner.

Ok, there are SO MANY horse people who think it must be THEIR WAY or it's WRONG/BAD/RUINING THE HORSE. Just think of the controversy that giving treats dredges up! Or clicker training! Or any of the random horse trainers. O_O

I honestly don't give a rats arse the *who* I'm learning from, as long as it WORKS, and isn't too much effort for too little return on investment. I'm not going to go out and spend all my money on horsemanship videos from some random guy, just because what he says is the "BESTEST WAY". I may read up, I may watch a few videos to see exactly what is going on...and dammit, if I'm having problems, I ASK. God knows that sometimes I sound like a total idiot on this forum, but I'd rather ask the question than screw up my horses! =)

Also, if it wasn't clear from my first statement, I've found that there are many of these "horse elders" (whether they in fact ARE elders or just *think they are* haha) can be very condescending. Before I got my first horse, I was told that I"d ruin her, that she was ugly and would only be good for meat. Um, do people know exactly how they come off as, by saying that? Do you think anyone really wants to listen to you, after that, or learn from anything you have to say? And I've seen people put their feet in their mouth this way over and over again, almost as if they were somehow enjoying being the keeper of all that is right in the horse world lol.

AS others have said, people may be at a different place in their (horsemanship) journey, but we are all still learning, and it is indeed best to try to keep an open mind. =)
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post #12 of 13 Old 04-19-2013, 11:17 PM
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I have that hanging on my wall......Michelangelo was quoted as saying that at 82 years of age.....

I spout off when I know someone's walking down a dangerous path with a horse....or if I feel someone is being duped into some mystical realm of unicorns and butterflies. I'm not a good teacher of's not my strength.

I'm well aware of my weaknesses with horses and my strengths....I have been humbled by a horse more times than I like to admit.

I learn something new everyday I ride my horse but am not afraid to ask for help.

I've had a varied career with horses, from racing, to WB stud, to professional showjumping/hunt groom, cowhorse barn, reining barn.....and every single one of those jobs has taught me something......but not everything.

And with all of that behind me I'm still as nervous as a turkey before thanksgiving about entering my first reining show.......humbled again.

It disappoints me to see the old timers blown off......I sometimes think 'if only I worked for him/her'.......

Allow yourself to be opens the door to learning and knowledge.
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post #13 of 13 Old 04-19-2013, 11:26 PM
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I agree that no one can know everything about horses, even being around horses their whole life. There's always something you can learn.

I try my best not to be condescending or snarky to anyone. Sometimes I do get sarcastic though. Some of my comments on my YouTube videos do get to be condescending or snarky but that is because they are responding to ones that are the same. However, I try to keep that there.

Even I had a thread that I received some snarky and condescending comments but I disregarded them. I will admit that I don't know everything, especially about specific disciplines and finishing a horse. Most of my questions would be asking for an opinion or why. In other posts, I just try to share what works for me or what I've seen work. Whomever can take it and use it or leave it.

I do get where this thread comes from. When we first got horses, they kept getting cockleburs in their tails, from the hay. We were told to use baby oil by the owners of the stable and we assumed they were knowledgeable. Later, we found out the same people told others to not use it because it would cause the hair to fall out. After that, we didn't listen to them much anymore.

You have to take any advice with a grain of salt until you can tell if they are really knowledgeable or not.
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